[FNZ] Super Role Madness One Piece Mafia Mash

[Dr. Watson]

I still say we follow the ones who were on LM wagon.

why LM in particular, over the most recent town lynches?

 

[MUUGEN]

why LM in particular, over the most recent town lynches?

I’ve given reasons why fit bith the lm and md lynch which is why I have ratchet in my scumpile

 

[Dr. Watson]

there's def scum in there tho. i need to go back and look at posts

im glad i made up for the LM lynch with the second revival, i felt bad
my reads have been okay since then so he could defintely lead us to the right track

 

[Apollo]

why LM in particular, over the most recent town lynches?

We had a TAC wagon running, which was overtaken by LM.

 

[Dr. Watson]

I’ve given reasons why fit bith the lm and md lynch which is why I have ratchet in my scumpile

hmmm. interesting

it really looks like a counterwagon and last ditch effort to find a way to divert the wagon off of TAC to me. i think it's easy for people to get into a distrusting position of ratchet precisely because he's a very sharp and experienced player, and it's easy to assume there's an agenda

in some sense, he's LFH. in another sense, i can see scum pressing for lynch because he's a threat. yes in theory he could be coordinating with his mates in the thread by asking why a particular action on mango failed, but it also implies he has limited info. also imo it'd be a futile and useless thing for him to do since he'd have other means to misdirect and manipulate instead of breadcrumbing

that's my current 2 cents and im also riding the high of having decent reads so

 

[Ariess]

here's what I'm referring to that feels like it's a contradiction and some minor agenda pushing

You could just be town with bad reads like others, but this doesn't look too good on you imo
My focus is less on you rn tho

you have shown a mixed contribution when it comes to scumhunting due to mislynches and it makes it hard for me to properly read you beyond a null.
i think the fact you're a vet, i would think that you'd catch onto a wagon like midnight's and flower's sincerity because you're able to understand it isn't just theatrics with her and her being upset isn't alignment indicative

but again, it could be as simple as bad reads. i just hope you understand why im questioning this

I mean I've stated multiple times this game the timezone of the phases starting cuck me over because I miss a large chunk of the phases thanks to being asleep when they start. It's less about me giving "bad reads" since I've yet to give out any and more like I can't keep up with the pace of the game because of external factors.

I don't expect you or any one to think I'm town, if you think I'm scummy then that's fine, in a game that's about deceiving others unless you are a cop role you shouldn't know what other peeps alignments are

 

[MUUGEN]

We had a TAC wagon running, which was overtaken by LM.

was by ratchet saying Lm wouldn’t even be around to defend himself.

 

[Dr. Watson]

I mean I've stated multiple times this game the timezone of the phases starting cuck me over because I miss a large chunk of the phases thanks to being asleep when they start. It's less about me giving "bad reads" since I've yet to give out any and more like I can't keep up with the pace of the game because of external factors.

I don't expect you or any one to think I'm town, if you think I'm scummy then that's fine, in a game that's about deceiving others unless you are a cop role you shouldn't know what other peeps alignments are

and that's fair. im sorry if i annoyed you with my interrogating ;_;
but can i ask if you weren't fully caught up and felt you were missing context, why not abstain from voting if that's the case?

and i still null read you. that hasn't changed. i think you understand this is just my process and means of obtaining info in order to see if it's consistent with a scum or town playstyle - a large contributing factor to my null on you is simply because we haven't played enough games for me to discern a particular alignment.

 

[GUI VI]

I don't know if this helps at all, but I got blocked on the last day.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

using this as a means to see what direction confused townies might be likelier to take. maybe pein was onto something idk

hey Reloaded, where are you at on these reads now?

ConquistadoR- null
2- Pot Goblin - slight scum

3- Charlie - null

4- MUUGEN - Town

10- AL sama - null

12- Dr. Watson - town

13- Rej - town

15- Ratchet - slight scum lean

17- Apollo -town

18- MangoSenpai - scum

21- Alwaysmind - null

22- Sallucion - scum

23- T-Pein™ - scum

24- Ariess - null

29- oddoddfruit - town

30- Meeyori - scum lean

32- Juliet - town lean

34- Yo Tan Wa -lean scum

36- Naomi - town

38- Destroya -slight town lean

Reborn- slight town

Master V- null

 

[Pot Goblin]

Fellas I have a little time rn since I'm on break rn, job orientation is going well though
I see that bastard sword reveal went through which is nice, hope Ratchet got what he needed from that

 

[Naomi]

Does anything clear her after her info on Ekko?


Yet you are so off with that conclusion.

Naomi - Town lean, maybe kind of null in regards to some aspects. This is due to my Town lean on Yo. My crackpot theory that would make her a true null lean is if she's been converted herself and trying to cause misdirection on Yo in order to push a narrative. I can see her being culted, she's proven useful for Town and as a protective mood for the cultist they would cult someone with a strong town presence.

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ah yes, culted while i still have my abilities.. meanwhile i see certain players annoyed... and other claiming becoming vanilla, and other people not visiting people(never claimed rb). implying could be culted vanilla role.






fhhhzzzzzzz

 

[Charlie]

I'll read it again, but can someone slowly explain to me how scum redirecting kill from Mango to Meeyori looks good on Mango and bad on Meeyori?

 

[Dr. Watson]

I'm going to analyze the voting patterns on LM:

Final vote count for Day 3 as of post 8061
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Lord Melkor - 7
T-Pein - 4
MangoSenpai -3
Charlie - 1
Pot Goblin - 1
TheAncientCenturion - 1
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[CONFIRMED SCUM] TheAncientCenturion: Flower -> MANGOSENPAI (flower flipped town, which leads me to think mango may flip town as well. although he's been riding him since very early game, might be bussing too. i need to gather his other votes and see whether most of them were town, which may point to bussing be less likely)
Naomi: TheAncientCenturion -> Unvote -> TheAncientCenturion -> T-PEIN (has got a good handle here. the tpein vote makes since from her POV and one i shared. this makes me think she's just been on point with scumhunting and leads to my theory about her being town being vote silenced to disrupt potential wagons on scum?)
Indigo: MUUGEN -> TheAncientCenturion -> T-Pein (don't need to go over this)
Apollo: MUUGEN -> TAC (voting pattern from apollo feels town to me. one good read, one bad read seems pretty typical)
Charlie: TheAncientCenturion -> MangoSenpai (no clue)
(Confirmed Town) Lord Melkor: RayanOO -> TheAncientCenturion -> MangoSenpai -> TAC -> MangoSenpai (hmmmm. now im back to square one and have no clue what mango is lol. mel is the type of player as town that he is a threat to scum. he may have actually flown too close to the sun this time)
Destroya: Dr. Watson -> Lord Melkor (he's been voting me early on mostly the basis that i have to have rolled scum. but like him ive been on a roll with getting town and i agree me rolling scum is due any day now but just not this time)
oddoddfruit: T-Pein (bad read but i think id gather from him he feels t-pein isn't beneficial to town and he didn't feel like it would be a loss if he flipped green)
Dr. Watson: T-Pein (same line of reasoning with odd. i didn't know lying was a reverse tactic commonly done but in retrospect i probably shouldn't have discounted it because he's openly admitted to lying as town.)
(Confirmed Town) T-Pein: TheAncientCenturion (he was on to something here! goddamnit.)
(Confirmed Town) MUUGEN1: T-Pein -> Apollo -> T-Pein -> Charlie (i don't know about this but he flipped town, so maybe bad reads?)
Ratchet: Lord Melkor (the tinfoil would be he's less likely than most to mislynch as town, but i also assume he had some reasoning behind it like tpein's play being hard to read maybe)
MangoSenpai: Lord Melkor -> Charlie -> Lord Melkor (maybe just townies being voted. id have to check every post in this phase to see what influenced these voting decisions)
BakiDou: AL Sama -> Lord Melkor (is al confirmed town? idk he subbed out and i honestly forgot who subbed in for him already)
Worst: Pot Goblin -> AL Sama -> Pot Goblin (maybe potentially on point reads, given the fact he was.. game removed or whatever? people pressing for a worst lynch if im connecting it to that theory means he could be a threat)
Pot Goblin: Lord Melkor (pot idrk, same with charlie and others i have a tendency to null. tho charlie has given me townie vibes thus far)
Peroroncino: Lord Melkor (idk about this)
(Confirmed Town) Dr_Professor83: Lord Melkor -> Unvote -> Lord Melkor (very much not on point. bad prof! and bad me! bad boy!)​

These votes may not reflect their actual value.

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[Dr. Watson]

ConquistadoR- null
2- Pot Goblin - slight scum

3- Charlie - null

4- MUUGEN - Town

10- AL sama - null

12- Dr. Watson - town

13- Rej - town

15- Ratchet - slight scum lean

17- Apollo -town

18- MangoSenpai - scum

21- Alwaysmind - null

22- Sallucion - scum

23- T-Pein™ - scum

24- Ariess - null

29- oddoddfruit - town

30- Meeyori - scum lean

32- Juliet - town lean

34- Yo Tan Wa -lean scum

36- Naomi - town

38- Destroya -slight town lean

Reborn- slight town

Master V- null

tpein is dead and flipped town tho lol

how far behind are you?

and what's changed your read of me?

 

[Dr. Watson]

ah yes, culted while i still have my abilities.. meanwhile i see certain players annoyed... and other claiming becoming vanilla, and other people not visiting people(never claimed rb). implying could be culted vanilla role.






fhhhzzzzzzz

the only basis for my theory is the misdirection thing (a reverse psychology method), i didn't say it makes any real sense lol

how many have said they have become vanilla?
i dont remember if there's been any conversions since that one WU i pointed out, has there?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

tpein is dead and flipped town tho lol

how far behind are you?

I don't super keep up with everything.

 

[Naomi]

the only basis for my theory is the misdirection thing (a reverse psychology method), i didn't say it makes any real sense lol

how many have said they have become vanilla?
i dont remember if there's been any conversions since that one WU i pointed out, has there?

mango,aries visited no one, plus they never claimed rb. this could point to faction kill/or cult

not seeing wu on converted could been cult leader upgrade, by gramma stating he been turned into vanilla (cult follower)





fhjhhhhhzzz

 

[MUUGEN]

I'll read it again, but can someone slowly explain to me how scum redirecting kill from Mango to Meeyori looks good on Mango and bad on Meeyori?

well for starters she tanked a kill and we don’t know if it was scum that redirect a kill to meeyori

 

[Ratchet]

was by ratchet saying Lm wouldn’t even be around to defend himself.

Why do you keep misrepresenting the facts? I said I was vote silenced, which I was. Charles confirmed this. I said Melkor probably wouldn't be around because it was late, it had nothing to do with lynching Melkor over TAC. And then Melkor showed up so it didn't even matter.

@Apollo I've repeated this a lot now, but that's the situation around Melkor being lynched.