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its not a joke
he is literally pinned as buggy's sub in the story
need me to bring the panel?


"Also.....man if you think swordmanship doesn't include Haki ,experience and more then you are lost case."

if you think strength doesnt include haki , experience etc you are a lost cause.
It's a joke,don't use haters logic.


I said he has no haki, experience,etc in the SAME LEVEL as WB and as argument I said he simply didn't have the same life as WB.
 
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