Powers & Abilities The gorosei are beyond the balance of powers

[Monkey D Theories]

Gorosei deniers need to fuck off

Y'all REALLY think Oda is going to have us going into the final war with Luffy being significantly stronger than Kaido? The same Kaido that was CONFIRMED to be above every yonko, admiral, and Mihawk? Stop being fanboys and use your braincells.

The story simply doesn't work if Gorosei deniers are correct. PK level Luffy will just waltz in and destroy mariejois, nobody can stop him(just like nobody could stop WB), the end.
"They're just figureheads, not fighters"
smh

Fortunately, ch 1073 hints that this is anything but the case.

Spoiler

The gorosei's name, Saturn, is quite peculiar. See, Saturn is the name of a roman god. This naming scheme is in line with the naming scheme of the ancient weapons:

• Pluton
• Uranus
• Poseidon

All of which are named after greek and roman gods. This shows where the Gorosei are in the balance of powers. The reason why they were never included in the Marines, Shichibukai, yonko balance is because they transcend this framework altogether.

No, the Gorosei's power is on the same tier as the ancient weapons. They are not emperors, they are gods.

Spoiler

Look at what Greenbull, an admiral, says about the celestial dragons. Do you really think someone as powerful as him worships people clowns like Charloss? Just think about Greenbull's ideology, he believes in the law of fishes, that might makes right. The only way he could serve under the celestial dragons is if there was someone amongst the CDs that was worthy enough for him to serve.

Those people are probably the gorosei. The Gorosei's power transcends every established powerscaling we have seen so far. It transcends the admirals and the yonko. And sadly for Mihawk fans, it probably transcends Mihawk as well. If it didn't, they wouldn't have ruled the world for hundreds of years.

 

[The White Crane]

Gorosei deniers need to fuck off

Y'all REALLY think Oda is going to have us going into the final war with Luffy being significantly stronger than Kaido? The same Kaido that was CONFIRMED to be above every yonko, admiral, and Mihawk? Stop being fanboys and use your braincells.

The story simply doesn't work if Gorosei deniers are correct. PK level Luffy will just waltz in and destroy mariejois, nobody can stop him(just like nobody could stop WB), the end.
"They're just figureheads, not fighters"
smh

Fortunately, ch 1073 hints that this is anything but the case.

Spoiler

The gorosei's name, Saturn, is quite peculiar. See, Saturn is the name of a roman god. This naming scheme is in line with the naming scheme of the ancient weapons:

• Pluton
• Uranus
• Poseidon

All of which are named after greek and roman gods. This shows where the Gorosei are in the balance of powers. The reason why they were never included in the Marines, Shichibukai, yonko balance is because they transcend this framework altogether.

No, the Gorosei's power is on the same tier as the ancient weapons. They are not emperors, they are gods.

Spoiler

Look at what Greenbull, an admiral, says about the celestial dragons. Do you really think someone as powerful as him worships people clowns like Charloss? Just think about Greenbull's ideology, he believes in the law of fishes, that might makes right. The only way he could serve under the celestial dragons is if there was someone amongst the CDs that was worthy enough for him to serve.

Those people are probably the gorosei. The Gorosei's power transcends every established powerscaling we have seen so far. It transcends the admirals and the yonko. And sadly for Mihawk fans, it probably transcends Mihawk as well. If it didn't, they wouldn't have ruled the world for hundreds of years.

 

[Salah WG]

WB attacked Marine HQ
Celestial Dragons are protected by Marine HQ, Cipher-Pol, Order of Knights, Seraphim + Whatever Secrets they are hiding
And they can also call to Dozens of Kingdoms for Assistance, they can also call Magellan to assist, not to mention High-Ranking Members there such as Kong and possibly Former Impel Down Warden too ... etc

Only a Fool would challenge WG, and that's why only those with D. were shown to be Courageous or Crazy enough to try it
Gorosei being Top Tiers is pointless & just wishful thinking, Ghandi seems to be a Fighter (Either High or Top Tier), but rest can still be just Rulers, they don't need to fight

Those Scars aren't necessarily indication that they can fight, it could simply indicate that they were once Attacked, and we recently did indeed learn that Rocks Pirates attacked Celestial Dragons (Gorosei were most probably there too)

You're also getting ahead of yourself, Oda didn't finish Introducing the Main Cast of Final Saga yet, there are still more Allies & Enemies to be Introduced, just like he does whenever they set foot on a New Major Island, tons of New Characters show up

 

[milluki]

Luffy and Dragon will fight Imu, Zoro battles Mihawk and so on. No need for further Top Tiers. Maybe they have tricky Devilfruits.

 

[Apollo]

WG side: Imu, Akainu, GB, Kizaru, Kong, Fujitora, Garp, Sengoku.
Add some fodder CP0s and VAs.

The highlighted names may not fight with the WG. So we are left with 5 fighters worth their weight among the WG side.

Luffy's allies could include:

PK Luffy, WSS Zoro, All-Blue Sanji, Dragon, Sabo and rest of the Rev army, Law, Kid and Killer, Yamato+Momo+9 scabbards, Marco+WB remnants, Vegapunk, Elbaf giants (its possible with Saul there), Rayleigh, Hancock, Carrot/Zuneisha and the rest of the minks, Shirahoshi(poseidon ancient weapon) and the fishmen, Bartolomeo/Cavendish and the rest of the Strawhat's Fleet, Katakuri and BM remnants possibly, Germa 66, Bonney, Vivi and the rest of Arabasta....etc etc.

The WG looking like the underdogs again, just like they looked in front of the Ancient Kingdom. The Gorosei being strong fighters is important if the WG is to even have a chance.

 

[Garp the Fist]

I remain utterly unconvinced by this line of reasoning.

 

[Jailer]

There's no need to get worked on, better wait and see. I always bring up people expecting awakened yonko, Beast Pirates and we know what we got.

It's the same with the Gorosei and BBP, speculations are all fine but until I see it I believe it.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I remain utterly unconvinced by this line of reasoning.

Poseidon's powers run in Neptune's bloodline, so the name wasn't coincidental, it was foreshadowing.

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Luffy and Dragon will fight Imu, Zoro battles Mihawk and so on.

Mihawk isn't siding with the WG, he literally hunted marines.
Stop trying to force your headcanons.

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WB attacked Marine HQ
Celestial Dragons are protected by Marine HQ, Cipher-Pol, Order of Knights, Seraphim + Whatever Secrets they are hiding
And they can also call to Dozens of Kingdoms for Assistance, they can also call Magellan to assist, not to mention High-Ranking Members there such as Kong and possibly Former Impel Down Warden too ... etc

Why does anyone support them if they have no strength of their own.

Greenbull, an admiral, "The celestial dragons are gods"
Why on earth would he say something like this if they CDs themselves didn't have power?

When you say that the CD's powers come from the marines, that's what you are saying, you are saying that they have no power of their own. Which is utterly bogus when they are the main villains of One Piece.

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typical fanboyism

All evidence points to Imu and the gorosei being the final fights for the SHs, but people who stan the admirals or Mihawk simply can't accept that. Oh well.

 

[HA001]

I remain utterly unconvinced by this line of reasoning.

Isn't Neptune poseiden in the myths

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Isn't Neptune poseiden in the myths

Neptune is the Roman equivalent of the Grecian Poseidon.

Like Jupiter to Zeus and Pluto to Hades.

 

[kurwa]

Greenbull, an admiral, "The celestial dragons are gods"
Why on earth would he say something like this if they CDs themselves didn't have power?

What kind of ass logic is this?

Lucci and everyone else calls them gods too. Gorosei aren't exclusive to that club.

Admirals are WG's and Navy's strongest power. There is no such a thing as secret group more powerful than admirals.
It's time to stop coping before the truth hits you like a truck EoS when admirals will be the last enemies

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Mihawk is stronger than Ghandi but I agree with you, the Gorosei might have a couple of God tier level fighters.

 

[AmiralTensei]

It's time for yonkers to admit that the only reason of why Kaido, Big mom, Shanks and BB were alive is beacause the Gorosei allow their existence. If they started to try to fight the WG the Gorosei would erase them like Imu erased Sabo.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Gorosei deniers need to fuck off

Y'all REALLY think Oda is going to have us going into the final war with Luffy being significantly stronger than Kaido? The same Kaido that was CONFIRMED to be above every yonko, admiral, and Mihawk? Stop being fanboys and use your braincells.

The story simply doesn't work if Gorosei deniers are correct. PK level Luffy will just waltz in and destroy mariejois, nobody can stop him(just like nobody could stop WB), the end.
"They're just figureheads, not fighters"
smh

Fortunately, ch 1073 hints that this is anything but the case.

Spoiler

The gorosei's name, Saturn, is quite peculiar. See, Saturn is the name of a roman god. This naming scheme is in line with the naming scheme of the ancient weapons:

• Pluton
• Uranus
• Poseidon

All of which are named after greek and roman gods. This shows where the Gorosei are in the balance of powers. The reason why they were never included in the Marines, Shichibukai, yonko balance is because they transcend this framework altogether.

No, the Gorosei's power is on the same tier as the ancient weapons. They are not emperors, they are gods.

Spoiler

Look at what Greenbull, an admiral, says about the celestial dragons. Do you really think someone as powerful as him worships people clowns like Charloss? Just think about Greenbull's ideology, he believes in the law of fishes, that might makes right. The only way he could serve under the celestial dragons is if there was someone amongst the CDs that was worthy enough for him to serve.

Those people are probably the gorosei. The Gorosei's power transcends every established powerscaling we have seen so far. It transcends the admirals and the yonko. And sadly for Mihawk fans, it probably transcends Mihawk as well. If it didn't, they wouldn't have ruled the world for hundreds of years.

Same thing with Lucci. He wouldn't serve a weak organization: if he acknowledges the Celestial Dragons as gods, he must know they possess great power.

Imu needs guards in place to check people who would go after them, or get too nosy.

One is the laser beam death UFO.

But, in terms of manpower, it's looking like the Gorosei is his elite force. I mean, fucking look at this guy.

That design radiates badass old man energy is a series full of badass old men.

Samurai Gandhi is going to be a problem, and so are the rest of them.

Keep in mind that, as far as we know, Akainu has no idea of Imu's existence. If Akainu actually thought he could erase the Celestial Dragons, knowing how much he hates corruption, I think he'd do it. When Akainu went to complain to the Gorosei, they just told him to shut up.

That should tell us everything we need to know.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

What kind of ass logic is this?

Lucci and everyone else calls them gods too. Gorosei aren't exclusive to that club.

Admirals are WG's and Navy's strongest power. There is no such a thing as secret group more powerful than admirals.
It's time to stop coping before the truth hits you like a truck EoS when admirals will be the last enemies

God is a powerlevel designation

Enel called himself a god, was near invincible pre-skip
Lunarians were called gods, are near invincible

If CDs are gods, that means that CDs themselves must have their own power, not simply derive power from the admirals

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Only the Gorosei are top tiers, the rest are fodders.

 

[kurwa]

If CDs are gods, that means that CDs themselves must have their own power, not simply derive power from the admirals

 

[Toonpiece]

Look man, how tf lunarian go extinct, ancient giant too. Or ancient kingdom that has 3 ancient weapon. Do you think mere admiral able to do that?? That don't make any sense at all.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Gorosei deniers need to fuck off

Y'all REALLY think Oda is going to have us going into the final war with Luffy being significantly stronger than Kaido? The same Kaido that was CONFIRMED to be above every yonko, admiral, and Mihawk? Stop being fanboys and use your braincells.

The story simply doesn't work if Gorosei deniers are correct. PK level Luffy will just waltz in and destroy mariejois, nobody can stop him(just like nobody could stop WB), the end.
"They're just figureheads, not fighters"
smh

Fortunately, ch 1073 hints that this is anything but the case.

Spoiler

The gorosei's name, Saturn, is quite peculiar. See, Saturn is the name of a roman god. This naming scheme is in line with the naming scheme of the ancient weapons:

• Pluton
• Uranus
• Poseidon

All of which are named after greek and roman gods. This shows where the Gorosei are in the balance of powers. The reason why they were never included in the Marines, Shichibukai, yonko balance is because they transcend this framework altogether.

No, the Gorosei's power is on the same tier as the ancient weapons. They are not emperors, they are gods.

Spoiler

Look at what Greenbull, an admiral, says about the celestial dragons. Do you really think someone as powerful as him worships people clowns like Charloss? Just think about Greenbull's ideology, he believes in the law of fishes, that might makes right. The only way he could serve under the celestial dragons is if there was someone amongst the CDs that was worthy enough for him to serve.

Those people are probably the gorosei. The Gorosei's power transcends every established powerscaling we have seen so far. It transcends the admirals and the yonko. And sadly for Mihawk fans, it probably transcends Mihawk as well. If it didn't, they wouldn't have ruled the world for hundreds of years.

I personally agree but Mihawk being WSS while Gandhi being swordsman suggests
Mihawk > Gorosei >> Yonko

 

[Erkan12]

Questions:

If Gorosei are strong how they get strong?

They need to be in missions like CP0 at least even with mask, then how come no one knows how strong they are?

As Rayleigh said you can get stronger by fighting strong opponents.

Pre-Emperor Shanks gets stronger by fighting Mihawk, and DFless BB, vice versa etc

Who were they fighting and how come no one knows thats the problem Oda needs to explain.

Do I think they are strong? Probably. But the chances are lower now as Blonde Gorosei basically confirmed they are not hundreds of years old (there were theories that they should be very old via special DF) since he said ''Government'' named Luffy's DF as Gomu, not them. So it means there were previous Goroseis before them.

If they are strong its possible but Oda needs to explain it well.

Perhaps Gorosei are representative of 6 powers (Rokushiki) and with Imu they are 6, and each one of them is specialized in 1 Rokushiki technique, lets see how Oda will portray them.

Look at what Greenbull, an admiral, says about the celestial dragons. Do you really think someone as powerful as him worships people clowns like Charloss?
Those people are probably the gorosei. The Gorosei's power transcends every established powerscaling we have seen so far. It transcends the admirals and the yonko. And sadly for Mihawk fans, it probably transcends Mihawk as well. If it didn't, they wouldn't have ruled the world for hundreds of years.

Its easy to say Gorosei are Gods instead of Celestial Dragons are Gods lmao.

We see Ryokugyu can separate who he wants to keep happy when he give Red Dog's name.

There is also Garp who refuse to be a Ladmiral just because of general perception of Celestial Dragons in public. How come Garp's and another person's perception can be so different lol, anyways we will see I don't surprise if they are strong or not.