Controversial the abortion question

[115673]

He's from Bangladesh

Didn’t know there were Bangladeshis here. But that's beyond the point.

The general sentiment in BD is abortion is bad and should be avoided. And I speak from experience.

My brother-in-law lives in London. Recently, they had to get an abortion due to medical issue. The doctors told them that the baby has too much spinal fluid, so they will likely have Down's syndrome. They recommended abortion. My wife and other brother-in-law went absolutely mad at the idea. My wife even said to them that she would take the baby, but do not abort.

Didn’t matter in the end. Apparently, the baby died in the uterus and doctors arranged for abortion to remove the dead fetus.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

so they said as adults they never should've been born ?

Anyway my point being was suffering is not antilife. and our attitude that it is somehow quite shortsighted.
most of the great man of history have used it to make great things.
imo if one daimond is formed from thousand of coal, its worth it. but thats my personal opinion kinda aligned with nature.

but again if people want to kill thier children let them. thats nature too, weeding out the weak.

Bro you ain't that guy.

 

[BleakAsh]

This is an eloquent way to deliver a speech with no substance whatsoever.

:laughmoji:
You know your IQ is that of a mold riddled cow shit when you need to substantiate common sense

Ethical and financial reasons are core reasons to why abortions happen.. Coz its either they think its fine to abort or just can't afford it.



The decision to have an abortion is typically motivated by multiple, diverse and interrelated reasons. The themes of responsibility to others and resource limitations, such as financial constraints and lack of partner support, recurred throughout the study.

Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2005, 37(3):110–118

https://www.guttmacher.org/journals...ons-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives

 

[Reborn]

I believe abortion is "necessary"
I dont think forcing people to have kids they don't desire is good, both for the mother and the kid
That said in my country abortion can only carried out to 12 weeks after conception as latest. I'm baffled that they can abort through something like the 22nd week without issue in America.

Many states are banning abortions in America if I am not wrong about this

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Many states are banning abortions in America if I am not wrong about this

I think americans are too extreme, be it the pro-choice or pro-life.

 

[Indigo]

so they said as adults they never should've been born ?

Anyway my point being was suffering is not antilife. and our attitude that it is somehow quite shortsighted.
most of the great man of history have used it to make great things.
imo if one daimond is formed from thousand of coal, its worth it. but thats my personal opinion kinda aligned with nature.

but again if people want to kill thier children let them. thats nature too, weeding out the weak.

you realize you're talking about the very few and putting that on the backs of most people who won't be great right?

most people will be just average slave wagers working for their corporate overlords

you read Punpun, i'm guessing Punpun would've loved to be aborted lmao

 

[Tobra]

let people who think they aren’t fit to be parents not be parents


not many people adopt children so putting them up for adoption solves nothing


even from a moral standpoint many people die everyday and none gives a shit about them just add unborn undeveloped babies to the list

 

[Toby D. Dog]

:laughmoji:
You know your IQ is that of a mold riddled cow shit when you need to substantiate common sense

Ethical and financial reasons are core reasons to why abortions happen.. Coz its either they think its fine to abort or just can't afford it.



The decision to have an abortion is typically motivated by multiple, diverse and interrelated reasons. The themes of responsibility to others and resource limitations, such as financial constraints and lack of partner support, recurred throughout the study.

Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2005, 37(3):110–118

https://www.guttmacher.org/journals...ons-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives

Calm down Bubba. I know you don't like me but there's no need to throw a tantrum.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Why do we pretend every single couple with an unplanned pregnancy is going to be a horrible parent?

Because majority are and those that are good usually need to sacrifice job/education to support that child and up raising the child in poor households that heavily depend on parents/relatives putting them into financial and emotional distress

 

[bennbeckman]

If you give people in lower income neighborhoods more access to health education, percentage of unwanted pregnancies will heavily decrease.

 

[Adam 🍎]

dude that why i keep saying ask them as adults . ? why would u ask a kid that question >? they don't have the self consciousness to able to answer that.

Because most kids that grow up like that end up becoming alcoholics, drug addicts and worse

Statistics don't work in their favour

I wouldn't sacrfice anything, personally i would like them to have a good life and am trying to make the world a better place. but that doesn't mean i can ignore harsh realities of nature, which include suffering as part of living for now atleast

No child should be born into a neglectful and hateful family if it can be avoided.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

If you give people in lower income neighborhoods more access to health education, percentage of unwanted pregnancies will heavily decrease.

Well, that's just straight up pure, unadulterated truth.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Control their urges? Why? it's natural. If they want to have sex then let them. No one here is against contraceptives dude. Nobody wants unwanted pregnancies.

Last time I checked, getting pregnant after sex is natural too. The thing is, we seek pleasure with no accountability, and we still wish to act like we did nothing wrong after ending a life just to skip responsibility, so we tell ourselves these stories to feel good about ourselves.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Last time I checked, getting pregnant after sex is natural too. The thing is, we seek pleasure with no accountability, and we still wish to act like we did nothing wrong after ending a life just to skip responsibility, so we tell ourselves these stories to feel good about ourselves.

Bro let them get their play. Don't be Jelly.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Last time I checked, getting pregnant after sex is natural too. The thing is, we seek pleasure with no accountability, and we still wish to act like we did nothing wrong after ending a life just to skip responsibility, so we tell ourselves these stories to feel good about ourselves.

While I understand that point of view, I don't think pregnancy should be a form of "punishment"

 

[Adam 🍎]

See, raising children is hard for everyone. There are times when every parent regret having kids, but that doesn't mean they're all horrible

There is a difference between that and - I will not clean my childes clothes, nor will I cook for him or clean, I will not show interest in his life and I will make sure he knows it

 

[Adam 🍎]

sure but that has something to do with the society too , we have failed them.

Indeed we failed them, hence why abortion should be allowed

besides that, even being alcoholics , drug addicts and worse , do they say they never should've been born. i would like to see a study on that.

Oh i am sure they are taking drugs and booze to the point of killing themselves is because they are living peachy life

 

[Reborn]

I love political debates on this forum


Its like new Zoro vs sanji

 

[bennbeckman]

Many states are banning abortions in America if I am not wrong about this

Just the Republican ones. All Democratic states are Pro Choice

 

[Gol D. Roger]

While I understand that point of view, I don't think pregnancy should be a form of "punishment"

I don't think having kids is a form of punishment generally speaking—although there are people who feel that way. At least the vast majority of humans don't feel that way. All the people that ended up with an unplanned pregnancy will be a parent at one point or another, so it really is a matter of whether you're willing to do it now or not.