?

Kids will never know pornography until their later life if they never get exposed to nudity lol? Thats clearly the correlation
You are derivating again with fallacies..

- First you tell us that Nudity is the problem
- Then you tell us that Pornography is the problem
- Then you tell us that nudity is the problem because nudity exposition leads to pornography..

... without even the mear tiny bit of fact to sustain that affirmation.

Dude.. you are literally exposed to nudity since the moment you are born. The exposure to it won't throw you toward pornography, what is throwing teenagers toward pornography is the prohibition (which is normal for pornography) not nudity.

The more you hide something, the more you are gonna want to see it.. it's human.

So youre okay if two people doing incest in public is okay as long as they are consent to it?

Lol ok
Me : "I don't care about incest as long as people don't make babies and are consentant adults"
Photon: "So youre okay if two people doing incest in public is okay as long as they are consent to it?"

The fallacy is strong with this one...




Consent is merely a cooperation to willingly do something lol. If the animal like to get intimate, it means they are consent and it is as simple as that
Consent is consent. It's "Yes, I agree" and a consentent relationship following that statement. Nothing less.

If someone gives you a kiss, it doesn't mean they want you to frick them, first. And second, Animal don't give consent, period. So let's stop with the rape culture rethoric please :beckmoji::whitepress:





You are the one saying they are not affected, so youre the one needed to give the proof

Also, this is irrelevant, numerous studies have shown that what i said is factual and is happening in our society
Actually I don't. Those people live peacefully at least without capitalism behind them, so its YOU who has the burden of proof here once again.


Also, this is irrelevant, numerous studies have shown that what i said is factual and is happening in our society
Unlikely.

Let's be clear:

Give the humanity full and unlimited access to an average temperature of 25 to 27 degree celcius at all time in all situation in public and private spaces and in all societies... and you will see ALL human societies go full nude in the span of 300 to 500 years.
 
Yes, because of the cold and then it turned into a cultural custom.

Again, completely acquired.
that's no universal definition, only that of YOUR CULTURE
Even today there are still communities where women are bare breasted or people wear less clothes overall.
They don't find any of this sexually arousing because they are used to it.
What will you tell these people? '''accept MY morals or you're indecent''?
I’m not trying to change their culture but people like C4N think it’s okay to change the culture of many countries
Don’t you see how hypocritical this is?
 
I’m not trying to change their culture but people like C4N think it’s okay to change the culture of many countries
Don’t you see how hypocritical this is?
Your statement ''nudity is wrong because it's bad'
''Nudity is always sexual''

In the past there were time periods it was normal for example to breastfeed in public.
Today people twist their undies when they see a woman's naked breast in a completely non-sexual context.

The culture here has been changing too, cultures always change.

Now what do you say about my example?
There were times when exposed knees and elbows were seen as indecent.
Can you relate to this? are you aroused by a woman's elbiws, knees,shoulders?
 
I’m not trying to change their culture but people like C4N think it’s okay to change the culture of many countries
Don’t you see how hypocritical this is?
If the culture is hegemonic and imperialist, patriarcal and capitalist.. then yes.. I think changing the culture to supress its most toxic traits is the ethical thing to do.

If that's not the case, it's not.

Simple.
 
Your statement ''nudity is wrong because it's bad'
''Nudity is always sexual''

In the past there were time periods it was normal for example to breastfeed in public.
Today people twist their undies when they see a woman's naked breast in a completely non-sexual context.

The culture here has been changing too, cultures always change.

Now what do you say about my example?
There were times when exposed knees and elbows were seen as indecent.
Can you relate to this? are you aroused by a woman's elbiws, knees,shoulders?
Come on, don’t be so ridiculous
There’s a huge difference between knees/elbows and titters, pussy and dicks.
You know that they’re called intimate areas?
They do what they want at home but not in public. There would be tons of people who would feel uncomfortable + children shouldn’t see such things
This is also why children shouldn’t watch porn

cultures change but that doesn’t mean that the change is something good. Many things can lead us to shit
 
Come on, don’t be so ridiculous
There’s a huge difference between knees/elbows and titters, pussy and dicks.
The point is that they used to be seen as indecent not too long ago

You're not aroused by them because you weren't taught that they are indecent

More I see some of these so called liberals argue more I feel humans are becoming dumber day by day.:milaugh:
You're dismissing thr fact that much of India's prudish stuff today goes back to the Brits conquering your asses and force feeding you their Puritan morals
 
If the culture is hegemonic and imperialist, patriarcal and capitalist.. then yes.. I think changing the culture to supress its most toxic traits is the ethical thing to do.

If that's not the case, it's not.

Simple.
Wearing clothes is a toxic or oppressing rule of the society? WEARING CLOTHES???! Dude you crossed a line here
Do you know what toxic and oppressing behaviour is?
There are woman who get beaten to death or still have disadvantages in workplaces and you have a the balls to say that covering your intimate areas is toxic and oppressive?
This is why no one takes you guys fucking serious

I will end this discussion before I slam my head against the wall. It’s has no meaning because we won’t come to a conclusion

Peace out
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
The point is that they used to be seen as indecent not too long ago

You're not aroused by them because you weren't taught that they are indecent


You're dismissing thr fact that much of India's prudish stuff today goes back to the Brits conquering your asses and force feeding you their Puritan morals
Did you seriously talked about colonialism as if it was something good?


You know nothing kid. Go cry under your bed and get lost
 
Wearing clothes is a toxic or oppressing rule of the society? WEARING CLOTHES???! Dude you crossed a line here
Do you know what toxic and oppressing behaviour is?
There are woman who get beaten to death or still have disadvantages in workplaces and you have a the balls to say that covering your intimate areas is toxic and oppressive?
This is why no one takes you guys fucking serious

I will end this discussion before I slam my head against the wall. It’s has no meaning because we won’t come to a conclusion

Peace out
I kinda see your point, yet it's one sided

Just for the record, I'm not forcing anybody to undress againts their will
🙄
No sane person does this
 
When will you respond to my question?
Obviously nope LOL
No you're Strawmanning
Youre the ones strawmanning if anything. I mentioned the word consent and refer to it linguistically, but somehow you have different definition of consention just to somehow invalidate my point.

More like the opposite
Explain LOL

You are derivating again with fallacies..

- First you tell us that Nudity is the problem
- Then you tell us that Pornography is the problem
- Then you tell us that nudity is the problem because nudity exposition leads to pornography..

... without even the mear tiny bit of fact to sustain that affirmation.

Dude.. you are literally exposed to nudity since the moment you are born. The exposure to it won't throw you toward pornography, what is throwing teenagers toward pornography is the prohibition (which is normal for pornography) not nudity.

The more you hide something, the more you are gonna want to see it.. it's human.
Why are you comparing a kid with an infant lmao.

I have my facts right, its just you needing to be spoon-fed all the time just to see the obvious correlation. Kids can get sexually aroused by nudity, and this might rewire their brain neuron to think of this solely all the time. This will eventually lead to doing some kind of pleasures. If they cant see someone nude at one point, theyll obviously resort to watching this pornography. The deadly cycle then continues.

Me : "I don't care about incest as long as people don't make babies and are consentant adults"
Photon: "So youre okay if two people doing incest in public is okay as long as they are consent to it?"

The fallacy is strong with this one.
Your 1 and only argument is the consent of the participants. If two people on nude doing an incest in public space have consent, your logic says its all okay

Consent is consent. It's "Yes, I agree" and a consentent relationship following that statement. Nothing less.

If someone gives you a kiss, it doesn't mean they want you to frick them, first. And second, Animal don't give consent, period. So let's stop with the rape culture rethoric please
Period. Period. Period.

How many are you going to say that while saying nothing of substance lmao
Since you leftist like to play word manipulation, then ill stop using the word consent and ill just instead say a basic sentence. If an animal want to get intimate with their owner and it is the animal that initiate the act and the owner agrees, is this wrong?


Actually I don't. Those people live peacefully at least without capitalism behind them, so its YOU who has the burden of proof here once again.
You never learn about burden of proof huh?

I gave you credible known study which has also been supported by numerous other study. Anything you say will never make those study invalid just because you want it to.

"Those people live peacefully at least without capitalism behind them"

That is your assumption, you are the one on the burden of proof.

get your logics straigth
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Unlikely.

Let's be clear:

Give the humanity full and unlimited access to an average temperature of 25 to 27 degree celcius at all time in all situation in public and private spaces and in all societies... and you will see ALL human societies go full nude themself in the span of 300 to 500 years.
totally unrealistic
 
Did you seriously talked about colonialism as if it was something good?


You know nothing kid. Go cry under your bed and get lost
And where did you read this??
Colonialism positive???

Where tf did I say this?!
Come on reborn,if you don't wanna discuss in good faith you shouldn't enter this thread.

Colonialism sucked. It was terrible.
 
Wearing clothes is a toxic or oppressing rule of the society? WEARING CLOTHES???! Dude you crossed a line here

Do you know what toxic and oppressing behaviour is?
There are woman who get beaten to death or still have disadvantages in workplaces and you have a the balls to say that covering your intimate areas is toxic and oppressive?
This is why no one takes you guys fucking serious
You are adding fallacies on fallacies. Where did I say that wearing cloth was oppressive and/or toxic :choppawhat:


I will end this discussion before I slam my head against the wall. It’s has no meaning because we won’t come to a conclusion

Peace out
You better.. I don't like lyers


Did you seriously talked about colonialism as if it was something good?


You know nothing kid. Go cry under your bed and get lost
He was actually stating the opposite...


Those guys can't read correctly...
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
And where did you read this??
Colonialism positive???

Where tf did I say this?!
Come on reborn,if you don't wanna discuss in good faith you shouldn't enter this thread.

Colonialism sucked. It was terrible.
Where you got that much of our prudish stuff came from British Conquering us?
 
Why are you comparing a kid with an infant lmao.

I have my facts right, its just you needing to be spoon-fed all the time just to see the obvious correlation. Kids can get sexually aroused by nudity, and this might rewire their brain neuron to think of this solely all the time. This will eventually lead to doing some kind of pleasures. If they cant see someone nude at one point, theyll obviously resort to watching this pornography. The deadly cycle then continues.
You have no fact. No data, just your bias and a bit of moral panic.


Your 1 and only argument is the consent of the participants. If two people on nude doing an incest in public space have consent, your logic says its all okay
No.
Stop the fallacies.


Period. Period. Period.

How many are you going to say that while saying nothing of substance lmao
Since you leftist like to play word manipulation, then ill stop using the word consent and ill just instead say a basic sentence. If an animal want to get intimate with their owner and it is the animal that initiate the act and the owner agrees, is this wrong?
Until you understand that consent is something you give, not something you imply.


You never learn about burden of proof huh?

I gave you credible known study which has also been supported by numerous other study. Anything you say will never make those study invalid just because you want it to.

"Those people live peacefully at least without capitalism behind them"

That is your assumption, you are the one on the burden of proof.

get your logics straigth
Actually, as a sceptic, I know my fair share of the concept of the burden of proof. so yeah.. you still got it.

My assumption is what we call a reasonable assumption. What you are asserting is an extraodinary assumption (that those tribes are affected by a negative aspect of nudity) so you need to give us extra evidence to prove your point. (which will be difficult as.. well.. thisis not a thing)


totally unrealistic
Oh.. really ?
You'd be surprised.
 
You have no fact. No data, just your bias and a bit of moral panic.



No.
Stop the fallacies.



Until you understand that consent is something you give, not something you imply.



Actually, as a sceptic, I know my fair share of the concept of the burden of proof. so yeah.. you still got it.

My assumption is what we call a reasonable assumption. What you are asserting is an extraodinary assumption (that those tribes are affected by a negative aspect of nudity) so you need to give us extra evidence to prove your point. (which will be difficult as.. well.. thisis not a thing)



Oh.. really ?
You'd be surprised.
Youre indeed a different breed of clown. Not knowing how statistics/correlation/burden of proof works but talk loud. Now get off of my tail
 
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