Gol D. Roger

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So you call the end of capitalism, the end of patriarchy, the end of sexual crimes, a new technological revolution and a better environment for all....

.. a "regression" ?

Are you sure about that ?
No, I am saying going back to the ways of our less civilized forefathers, like, not using clothes is regressing. The end of sexual crimes sure is desirable, and good luck ending capitalism and patriarchy.
 
No, I am saying going back to the ways of our less civilized forefathers, like, not using clothes is regressing. The end of sexual crimes sure is desirable, and good luck ending capitalism and patriarchy.
Take your clothes off and let's go back hundred of thousand years in the past so we can end patriarchy, sex crimes and capitalism you bigot

Yeah more like, sex crimes will grow stronger and they will live in a real patriarchy for the first time of their lives. Ain't going to be as easy as it is nowadays. As for capitalism, people will just take your shit whenever they want to, you're not happy, they will kill you, well they might kill you just for the fun of it lol
 
People spend a lot of their time outside either working (e.g. construction) or free time (playing sports)
Unless your utopia has a world-spanning roof with sun-mimicing lightbulbs underneath of course
It would depend on the infrastructure of the cities. if we keep building stuff over stuff.. we will never reach that stage, but if we rethink the way we build cities, giant coridor and rooms could be constructed between infrastructure (making them look like the exterior) those could be heated, entire environment could be reshaped to maxime better wether conditions etc. There are for sure a number of way we could give humanity the potential to live in a society were temperature and wether condition won't be an issue. The rest would just be a question of time.


not using clothes is regressing.
Why use clothes if clothing becomes a non necessity ?
 
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Gol D. Roger

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Why use clothes if clothing becomes a non necessity ?
Who determines this necessity and who dictates rules explaining whether you're gonna use clothes or not? And how do you plan on making clothes unnecessary? Using technology to control weather? Lmao, just try it. What about people who wish to wear them for reasons other than the ambient conditions?
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Take your clothes off and let's go back hundred of thousand years in the past so we can end patriarchy, sex crimes and capitalism you bigot

Yeah more like, sex crimes will grow stronger and they will live in a real patriarchy for the first time of their lives. Ain't going to be as easy as it is nowadays. As for capitalism, people will just take your shit whenever they want to, you're not happy, they will kill you, well they might kill you just for the fun of it lol
The dude probably thinks the world is more patriarchal and oppressive of women now than it was when our ancestors had no clothes.:milaugh:
 

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It would depend on the infrastructure of the cities. if we keep building stuff over stuff.. we will never reach that stage, but if we rethink the way we build cities, giant coridor and rooms could be constructed between infrastructure (making them look like the exterior) those could be heated, entire environment could be reshaped to maxime better wether conditions etc. There are for sure a number of way we could give humanity the potential to live in a society were temperature and wether condition won't be an issue. The rest would just be a question of time.



Why use clothes if clothing becomes a non necessity ?
So you think entire environment to be reshaped or entire infra be rebuilt is economically viable just so people can wear no clothes?
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

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That's called regression.
Might be unrelated but in recent times Gender theorists and skeptics have taken a big interest on previous generally pagan societies and their views on genders, sexualities and sexual activities. They found they're more open to sex, various types of sex acts including the one involving pain aka more recently known as BDSM paganism is common and was being committed open in public and rituals and women clothing is totally unrelated to morality at all aka free to go naked even . So they concluded it is in line with progressive values with some reformism :ie consent is needed albeit sex with animal's is still controversial and contentious. Some Feminists have taken big interest on that and all the females gods that's being worshipped and their stories is being revived and even have their tattoos too.

An interesting phenomenon regardless
 
the lengths motherfuckers will go just to not have a ray of sunshine hit them
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Rich people are too demonized.

They're just established people who got income by their own hardworks and intelligence and then get significant portion of their income robbed by the government in the name of taxes

#ProveMeWrong
Because poor people are envious and will talk shit about people that have what they don't have

The difference between rich and poor person is that rich person took the system and its flaws and used it for their own benefit while poor person was too scared/nice and didn't do it
 

Gol D. Roger

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Might be unrelated but in recent times Gender theorists and skeptics have taken a big interest on previous generally pagan societies and their views on genders, sexualities and sexual activities. They found they're more open to sex, various types of sex acts including the one involving pain aka more recently known as BDSM paganism is common and was being committed open in public and rituals and women clothing is totally unrelated to morality at all aka free to go naked even . So they concluded it is in line with progressive values with some reformism :ie consent is needed albeit sex with animal's is still controversial and contentious. Some Feminists have taken big interest on that and all the females gods that's being worshipped and their stories is being revived and even have their tattoos too.

An interesting phenomenon regardless
I think a big part of it is due to the fact that sex was more easily available to both sexes back in the day, so getting consent was an easy business—compared to now at least. Women these days are pickier than our ancestors and the standards improved drastically in numerous ways. Lack of sex is the biggest driving force of sexual crimes and women control sexual access. So we'll have to ask the women to basically drop or at least lower their standards drastically to pick their sexual partners to create such a society. I doubt today's women think that's a progressive idea.
 

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Because poor people are envious and will talk shit about people that have what they don't have

The difference between rich and poor person is that rich person took the system and its flaws and used it for their own benefit while poor person was too scared/nice and didn't do it
this tbh:kata:
 
Might be unrelated but in recent times Gender theorists and skeptics have taken a big interest on previous generally pagan societies and their views on genders, sexualities and sexual activities. They found they're more open to sex, various types of sex acts including the one involving pain aka more recently known as BDSM paganism is common and was being committed open in public and rituals and women clothing is totally unrelated to morality at all aka free to go naked even . So they concluded it is in line with progressive values with some reformism :ie consent is needed albeit sex with animal's is still controversial and contentious. Some Feminists have taken big interest on that and all the females gods that's being worshipped and their stories is being revived and even have their tattoos too.

An interesting phenomenon regardless
Thing about paganism is that most people that follow it don't really follow as much as they do just take advantages of its thesis for their own good.

Like lets take Aphrodite considering the context of what you are talking about. Where are the temples for her? Rituals being held? Priestesses? Those people that take Pagan beliefs but don't practice paganism are dumb fucks
 
So you think entire environment to be reshaped or entire infra be rebuilt is economically viable just so people can wear no clothes?
Not now. In the future.. (a far future) .. yes why not.


Who determines this necessity and who dictates rules
No one.. Just the situation. That's the impact of the environment on human species.

If you live in a constant state of good and hot temperature. You will be more likely to get rid of unnecessary clothing.
Add to that the effect of the mode and the subversion in clothing of each generation plus the evolution of clothing and a few hundreds of years and you end up naturally with a society where clothing becomes a non necessity, with different norms about sexualization, different norms about the looks on bodies, different sexual crime rate etc.

Using technology to control weather? Lmao, just try it. What about people who wish to wear them for reasons other than the ambient conditions?
We are not talking about our current civilisation here but a possible future where patriarchy and capitalism are gone and were the humans, the animals and the environments coexist peacefully. In that world it would be perfectly logical to imagine enormous infrastructures permitting the heating of the populations while keeping the illusion of the exterior.

All of this is of course just speculations, but that's also what politic is about. Not just trying to rationalizing our current world but imagining better worlds.


The dude probably thinks the world is more patriarchal and oppressive of women now than it was when our ancestors had no clothes.
Actually... The reality was more complicated than that:

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/14/early-men-women-equal-scientists
 
So you call the end of capitalism, the end of patriarchy, the end of sexual crimes, a new technological revolution and a better environment for all....

.. a "regression" ?

Are you sure about that ?
Crimes won't stop even if patriarchy ends.. People don't turn into moral saints over night

But i doubt the Liberal radical solutions would help any better to minimize the crimes.

Like how has sexual freedom, normalising pornograohy, flaunting seductive looks, and oversexualization of women helped anyway
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

Hustlerversity Graduate
So we'll have to ask the women to basically drop or at least lower their standards drastically to pick their sexual partners to create such a society. I doubt today's women think that's a progressive idea.
But isn't cultural taboo is too strong for women who are sex- friendly / open to have sex with many randos as they can?

Like she will most likely get called names and dehumanizing rhetoric eg sluts, whores, spoiled goods, cum dumpster etc.

So in theory, if women drops their standards, have sex with anything that have balls,

How you will eliminate the taboo and stigma against it that's predominantly done by Men?
 
Crimes won't stop even if patriarchy ends..
Of course, that's why I'm not mentionning the "end" of crime, but "a lower rate of sexual crimes" And we are not talking about an overnight process here, but a multi century time leap.


But i doubt the Liberal radical solutions would help any better to minimize the crimes.
Well.. at least we have a good and viable solution. So let's hear what we actually propose, being, the end of the patriarchy. (for starter)
Like how has sexual freedom
- Sexual freedom help in the way that it permitted women to get more liberties (we are FAR from done on this front)
- The development of pornography ..and leftist are not advocating for the development of the current pornography, but something more ethical, that could help the representation of sexual act and women in the minds of young boys.
- Oversexualisation was never something the left advocated for. I think you are confusing (in the case of women) the right to use their body freely without being shamed for it for oversexualisation.

So in theory, if women drops their standards, have sex with anything that have balls,

How you will eliminate the taboo and stigma against it that's predominantly done by Men?
Women have mostly one standard.. actual good people.
 
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Women have mostly one standard.. actual good people.
women are objectively only good?

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Of course, that's why I'm not mentionning the "end" of crime, but "a lower rate of sexual crimes" And we are not talking about an overnight process here, but a multi century time leap.
Common niw you literally connected end of patriarchy with end of sex crime in your comment there.
I mean you still have to prove how it'd drastically decrease sexual assault or rape cases with patriarchy ending.


Sexual freedom help in the way that it permitted women to get more liberties in term of sexual parterns (we are FAR from done on this front)
By making them advertise their bodies.. How dignified
but something more ethical, that could help the representation of sexual act and women in the minds of young boys.
Birthing incels instead




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I think you are confusing (in the case of women) the right to use their body freely without being shamed for it for oversexualisation.
By oversexualizaiton i meant advertising and flaunting women's bodies and the rapid advent of surgeries to look sexually appealing which is oversexualizaiton

OR a confusingly unintended consequence to such naivety
 
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women are objectively only good?
People in majority are good people, despite their flaws


Common niw you literally connected end of patriarchy with end of sex crime in your comment there.
Indeed you are right. I didn't recall. (hello short term memory)

Well it doesn't matter, the end of Patriarchy will most likely be the dawn of the end of sex crime as well. Not all of them (the pathological cases will need other deconstructions) but the majority

I mean you still have to prove how it'd drastically decrease sexual assault or rape cases with patriarchy ending.
The patriarchy ending sex crime is a logical consequence. Helping you understand that would take many ... many paragraph of text and I need to sleep so I recommend that you check some content about patriarchy and the important of ending it. Well.. Let's start with one of the consequence of patriarchy : toxic masculinity (first video) and a way to end it to replace it with a more positive masculinity (second video):



By making them advertise their bodies.. How dignified
By giving them the freedom to do it without being raped or shamed.

If you are shaming, you are part of the problem; not them.


Birthing incels instead
By representing women in a better way, you think "this will give birth to incel" ? What kind of logic do you use mate ? Don't you know the power of good representation on the mind of young generations ?


By oversexualizaiton i meant advertising and flaunting women's bodies and the rapid advent of surgeries to look for sexually appealing which is oversexualizaiton
This is a problem relative to patriarchy: burden of representation on women.

If you want to end that, end patriarchy. Start by being respectfull of women who do this kind of things, this will help them accept themself for who they are.. That will be a start.
 
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