Controversial Why are god from the bible valid according to christans if zeus and odin are not?

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K!NG HARA$H!MA

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If that was the case why isnโ€™t Tengrism dominating the world? Or Greco-Roman folklore? Conquest played a role (perhaps far more for Christianity in particular and even far more for Post Colonial Liberalism/Secularism) however that is not the sole ingredient in the mass conversion and long lasting standing of the Abrahamic religions on the world stage.
The Mongols wasn't particularly interested in spreading Tengrism tbh

They adopted medieval secularism in regard to new conquered territories.

And this is why Mongol identity died out.
They get sucked and assimilated to local community and cultures
 
#24
Because unlike Christianity and Islam these religions you mentioned were never designed as missionaric religions.
It isnโ€™t solely due to โ€œviolent conquestโ€ either though as you could make that case for Post Colonial Secularism/Liberalism far more than you could with Christianity and Islam. If violent conquest was the sole denominator, you wouldnโ€™t have people converting to these religions especially the latter that being Islam till this day. Thereโ€™s more to it than just historical conquests.
Also Catholicism has many elements from (Roman) polytheism.
True, as much as Christians do not want to admit, there is an undeniable influence of Roman polytheism in their theology.
 
#25
none of it is valid, its called faith
None is more valid than the other

Religion is a very personal matter and I hate these religious wars.
They're pointless and only cause suffering and destruction. it's crazy how after so many centuries people are still not done killing each other over their beliefs.
If violent conquest was the sole denominator, you wouldnโ€™t have people converting to these religions especially the latter that being Islam till this day. Thereโ€™s more to it than just historical conquests.
There are different kinds of violence.

One is direct, through killing, threatening with death etc. The other is psychological warfare.
The Abrahamic missionary religions are really good at both.
 

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It isnโ€™t solely due to โ€œviolent conquestโ€ either though as you could make that case for Post Colonial Secularism/Liberalism far more than you could with Christianity and Islam. If violent conquest was the sole denominator, you wouldnโ€™t have people converting to these religions especially the latter that being Islam till this day. Thereโ€™s more to it than just historical conquests.

True, as much as Christians do not want to admit, there is an undeniable influence of Roman polytheism in their theology.
In France, some Catholics pray Jesus but also Jeanne d'Arc and so many other saints.

It's not rare to find an autel dedicated to Jeanne d'Arc in a church.
 
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In France, some Catholics pray Jesus but also Jeanne d'Arc and so many other saints.

It's not rare to find an autel dedicated to Jeanne d'Arc in a church.
Yeah, I donโ€™t want to offend anyone whoโ€™s Christian but yeah thereโ€™s denominations that went off the script for sure, even though I think they donโ€™t really got a reliable script to begin with.
 

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#34
What makes any one idea of god more valid then the another
Like what would make hindu gods any less valid then bible gods or buddist gods


or egypt gods

like what makes your preferred creation myth any more valid then dozen others that exist
You can tell the question is not even coming from a genuine place, for you to assert that Christians believe myths are true. It's downright disrespectful.

True, as much as Christians do not want to admit, there is an undeniable influence of Roman polytheism in their theology.
Sounds like you have evidence for this claim? Mind sharing?
 
#35
What pact?
Like do as your myths say and you get to heaven?

Aint the same vahalla or whatever. if that's what you mean.
Do you ever ask yourself why Bible called Old and New testament? And yes, it is clearly not the same thing as Valhalla, case jews and christian religion is based on redemption idea.

So you should know if you want to make a fun from religion you should learn difference between religions and only then try to say some bullshit about things that you don't know.

So yeah, learn at least basics about Odin, Jews God etc and then you will be able to talk things
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None is more valid than the other

Religion is a very personal matter and I hate these religious wars.
They're pointless and only cause suffering and destruction. it's crazy how after so many centuries people are still not done killing each other over their beliefs.

There are different kinds of violence.

One is direct, through killing, threatening with death etc. The other is psychological warfare.
The Abrahamic missionary religions are really good at both.
Lies, none of them Valid is really bold statement based on faith that "god" didn't exist. Talking on OP language it is same as ZKK, for those who was waiting it to happen comes dissapointment. Ofc you can have faith that humans a supreme creatures in whole universe but thats yours faith
 
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#36
I don't consider Jesus (peace be upon him) as a god

But comapared to Odin.. he actually legitimately, ABSOLUTELY exists on and having his own scripture which sadly cannot be traced back completely anymore but regardless, more importance is pertained to him as he brought forth a way of life for people, a reason to explain their existence, and purpose of life
 
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#37
I feel like reform Judaism is the best religion. I respect Islam, some forms of hinduism, and buddhism.

But I think Christianity is an absolute joke of a religion. Its so clearly and blatantly false, I can't even.

I think Hashem, the jewish god, is more valid than other gods simply because jews don't believe in idolatry. Like think about it logically. Could there be a god? Yes. However, if there is a god, how much can you say you really know about it? Can you really say that G-d is Zeus, Odin, Shiva, etc. when you have never seen G-d? I don't think you can.

Which is why I don't believe in polytheistic faith. Its also why I think Christianity is an objectively stupid religion. Because it presents itself as if its the continuation of Judaism, when it objectively isn't.
 
#38
Sounds like you have evidence for this claim? Mind sharing
Not directly on hand but off the dome it seems like the prevailing doctrine of the trinity for example is inherently influenced by other pagan religions in the nearby localities/cultures of Babylon, Egypt, Ancient Greece as well etc. With the triple deity even present in Roman folklore with Diana I believe itโ€™s called? And then when it comes to the nature of Jesus again the prevailing idea of a god man also has inherent pagan roots with that being directly tied to Greco-Roman folklore with demi gods everywhere. That and the fact that the trinity is nowhere to be found in the Bible itself is enough to see how Paul and other early Christians misinterpreted the actual realities of Jesus. I can give you stuff to read up on if I can find it and if you are interested.
 
#39
Christianity is objectively heretical to the Tanakh, which christians claim their religion supposedly completes.

One of the things that's a reoccurring theme in the Torah is that idolatry is bad and you aren't supposed to do it. You aren't supposed to place other gods before G-d. Then why do christians keep doing it?

Christians have made an idol out of jesus. What they are doing with him is no different from Aaron and his golden calf.

"b-buh the trinity"

The trinity is a fucking cope to rationalize Christians' nonsensical theology. You really think there are three parts to G-d and that somehow this was never mentioned in the Torah? Not to Abraham? Not to Moses? If there is a trinity, who's to say there isn't a fourth part of G-d that christians haven't heard of? Or a fifth part? Or a sixth part? How do christians know hinduism isn't true, and that there aren't millions of parts of G-d?

That's why you aren't supposed to invent idols.
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Christianity is to Judaism what disney star wars is to the original trilogy
 
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I feel like reform Judaism is the best religion. I respect Islam, some forms of hinduism, and buddhism.

But I think Christianity is an absolute joke of a religion. Its so clearly and blatantly false, I can't even.

I think Hashem, the jewish god, is more valid than other gods simply because jews don't believe in idolatry. Like think about it logically. Could there be a god? Yes. However, if there is a god, how much can you say you really know about it? Can you really say that G-d is Zeus, Odin, Shiva, etc. when you have never seen G-d? I don't think you can.

Which is why I don't believe in polytheistic faith. Its also why I think Christianity is an objectively stupid religion. Because it presents itself as if its the continuation of Judaism, when it objectively isn't.
No need for the insults, tho I am in agreement.
I think Hashem, the jewish god, is more valid than other gods simply because jews don't believe in idolatry.
True to an extent. However I have a hard time being sold on this conception of God either:
ื”ืงื‘"ื” ื™ื•ืฉื‘ ื•ืขื•ืกืง ื‘ืชื•ืจื”....ืจื‘ื™ืขื™ื•ืช ื™ื•ืฉื‘ ื•ืžืฉื—ืง ืขื ืœื•ื™ืชืŸ ืฉื ืืžืจ ืœื•ื™ืชืŸ ื–ื” ื™ืฆืจืช ืœืฉื—ืง ื‘ื•
God sits and learns Torah (the first quarter of the day) ....the last quarter of the day, He sits and plays with the Leviathan, as the verse says ([COLOR=var(--theme-link-color-visited)]Tehillim 104:26
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16325#v=26): "This Leviathan, You created to play with."[/COLOR]
As mentioned here, God is a)learning despite being all knowing and b)playing with the Leviathan? . And in Genesis I believe there is a verse that says that God regretted creating mankind? Against the backdrop of all the attributes mentioned of God, Islamโ€™s conception of God by far makes the most sense.
 
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