Lmao, you trippin. Minato was fucking elite and genius. Even if he didn't have Raijin he would be a top tier. Maybe not to the point he was with Raijin but still.
Bruh no. Completely disregarding Hiraishin and Kurama makes Minato a fucking bum. Rasengan? Grossly overrated jutsu. Kakashi's Raikiri is a million times stronger and deadlier and he invented that as a teen.

Minato is so damn overrated.
 
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tbh he would barely be jiraiya tier, he sealed nine tails bomb using raijin
Bro he was fucking elite despite Rajin. What the fuck are you both waffling about. He was a genius and master at his craft.

+ He took Rajin to another level. Tobirama only created the concept.
 
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Bruh no. Completely disregarding Hiraishin and Kurama makes Minato a fucking bum. Rasengan? Grossly overrated jutsu. Kakashi's Raikiri is a million times stronger and deadlier and he invented that as a teen.

Minato is so damn overrated.
You can cope but databooks and manga itself disagrees with you.
 
Bro he was fucking elite despite Rajin. What the fuck are you both waffling about. He was a genius and master at his craft.

+ He took Rajin to another level. Tobirama only created the concept.
not denying that, but without raijij he's essentially jiraiya, in fact he couldn't infuse his flame chakra to his rasengan
 
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Formerly Seth

Minato is a genius born once every several generations. This puts him in the same category as Sasuke and Itachi as geniuses as opposed to Kakashi, Neji or Orochimaru who are “once a generation” geniuses.

Take away Minato’s FTG and hes going to perfect Sage mode and be a better Jiraiya.
Databooks crush any "Minato is trash without Rajin" let alone Manga statements.

Some people can't fucking read bro.
 
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