Future Events Shanks will lose to Kid, only the new era matter
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Picture this....
In order to prep to go to war with Whitebeard and his allies, the Marines brought a Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, 2 Admiral class fighters, 10-20 Vice Admirals, and 100,000 foot solders.
They pulled off the win, but was crippled so hardcore, they had to launch a two year Campaign to draft enough people to refill thier ranks.
Kid has what, roughly 22 crew members, with 1 being comparable to a YC?
And he's going to take down Shanks, and his allies?
In order to prep to go to war with Whitebeard and his allies, the Marines brought a Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, 2 Admiral class fighters, 10-20 Vice Admirals, and 100,000 foot solders.
They pulled off the win, but was crippled so hardcore, they had to launch a two year Campaign to draft enough people to refill thier ranks.
Kid has what, roughly 22 crew members, with 1 being comparable to a YC?
And he's going to take down Shanks, and his allies?
Picture this....
In order to prep to go to war with Whitebeard and his allies, the Marines brought a Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, 2 Admiral class fighters, 10-20 Vice Admirals, and 100,000 foot solders.
They pulled off the win, but was crippled so hardcore, they had to launch a two year Campaign to draft enough people to refill thier ranks.
Kid has what, roughly 22 crew members, with 1 being comparable to a YC?
And he's going to take down Shanks, and his allies?
In order to prep to go to war with Whitebeard and his allies, the Marines brought a Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, 2 Admiral class fighters, 10-20 Vice Admirals, and 100,000 foot solders.
They pulled off the win, but was crippled so hardcore, they had to launch a two year Campaign to draft enough people to refill thier ranks.
Kid has what, roughly 22 crew members, with 1 being comparable to a YC?
And he's going to take down Shanks, and his allies?
Picture this....
In order to prep to go to war with Whitebeard and his allies, the Marines brought a Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, 2 Admiral class fighters, 10-20 Vice Admirals, and 100,000 foot solders.
They pulled off the win, but was crippled so hardcore, they had to launch a two year Campaign to draft enough people to refill thier ranks.
Kid has what, roughly 22 crew members, with 1 being comparable to a YC?
And he's going to take down Shanks, and his allies?
In order to prep to go to war with Whitebeard and his allies, the Marines brought a Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, 2 Admiral class fighters, 10-20 Vice Admirals, and 100,000 foot solders.
They pulled off the win, but was crippled so hardcore, they had to launch a two year Campaign to draft enough people to refill thier ranks.
Kid has what, roughly 22 crew members, with 1 being comparable to a YC?
And he's going to take down Shanks, and his allies?
Aehm... what?
We have seen him, in the story, fighting 3 times:
1. Before TS, his first appearance, so basically everything was new.
2. On roof against Kaido, there he pulled new things like Punk Rotten, Punk Vise, Slam Gibson... moves he never showed before.
3. Fight vs Big Mum, there he pulled new moves like Punk Pistols, Punk Corna Dio, Damned Punk + Awakaning
Where exactly did "showed nothing new whatsoever"?
That is constant growing and showing new feats. And yes, to beat an Yonko, they both went all out, but... whats the surprise?
"Has nothing new" - "ussing awakaning faster and knowing to deal with devil fruits" ... you get it yourself right? He is freely using awakaning right now, which is huge. Comparing with Luffy, he now is G5 using easily and instantly, which is also a power up. Claiming this is the same strength by Law as vs Big Mum is again a strange take.
Additionally, we have seen nearly nothing from the fight so far. We got the initial clash, thats it. Dont expect something else from any fight in the series anyway.
So you buy this Shanks is suddenly going for the One Piece, when his all story claim is that only the one Roger is waiting for will get the one piece. When Shanks whole story was about Luffy finding the One Piece, but suddenly he is for it to? While he never ever before made one step in that direction.
But ok, even if he does, his going for the One Piece has nothing to do with Luffy at all. Also become "a great pirate" is not connected to Shanks at all. Shanks can lose and literally nothing will change in direction of Luffy.
We have seen him, in the story, fighting 3 times:
1. Before TS, his first appearance, so basically everything was new.
2. On roof against Kaido, there he pulled new things like Punk Rotten, Punk Vise, Slam Gibson... moves he never showed before.
3. Fight vs Big Mum, there he pulled new moves like Punk Pistols, Punk Corna Dio, Damned Punk + Awakaning
Where exactly did "showed nothing new whatsoever"?
That is constant growing and showing new feats. And yes, to beat an Yonko, they both went all out, but... whats the surprise?
"Has nothing new" - "ussing awakaning faster and knowing to deal with devil fruits" ... you get it yourself right? He is freely using awakaning right now, which is huge. Comparing with Luffy, he now is G5 using easily and instantly, which is also a power up. Claiming this is the same strength by Law as vs Big Mum is again a strange take.
Additionally, we have seen nearly nothing from the fight so far. We got the initial clash, thats it. Dont expect something else from any fight in the series anyway.
So you buy this Shanks is suddenly going for the One Piece, when his all story claim is that only the one Roger is waiting for will get the one piece. When Shanks whole story was about Luffy finding the One Piece, but suddenly he is for it to? While he never ever before made one step in that direction.
But ok, even if he does, his going for the One Piece has nothing to do with Luffy at all. Also become "a great pirate" is not connected to Shanks at all. Shanks can lose and literally nothing will change in direction of Luffy.
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Its extremely clear Shanks wants to meet Luffy at or right before Laugh Tale. Him losing in any capacity entirely defeats that plot point.
You guys are also taking Shanks' intent as something you actually know, when the author had gone out of his way to tell us we know very little about the character and his endgoal.
Its extremely clear Shanks wants to meet Luffy at or right before Laugh Tale. Him losing in any capacity entirely defeats that plot point.
You guys are also taking Shanks' intent as something you actually know, when the author had gone out of his way to tell us we know very little about the character and his endgoal.
I mean nothing new since Wano other than using what they already learned.
Well we don't know Shanks' motives, but he said they're going to claim one piece and he's about to take the poneglyphs. I do not know how you're interpreting it, but it's pretty straightforward.
Shanks has to meet Luffy, you know that's the direction it's going at cause Oda has been teasing that all manga. If Shanks doesn't get the poneglyphs from Kidd, how do you think he'll get there?
Well we don't know Shanks' motives, but he said they're going to claim one piece and he's about to take the poneglyphs. I do not know how you're interpreting it, but it's pretty straightforward.
Shanks has to meet Luffy, you know that's the direction it's going at cause Oda has been teasing that all manga. If Shanks doesn't get the poneglyphs from Kidd, how do you think he'll get there?
Luffy did neither, so? Kid hasnt even fighted yet, sure he has shown nothing new. Law has just his entrance clash, where.... literally no one has ever shown something new, except when he was new in the story. But, everyone sees Luffy has grown since than and Law has too, by using his awakaning frequently without going all out. So its already a huge power up and the real fighting didnt even started at all.
They going to meet, but nobody knows where and under what conditions. Why do you expect it to be on Laugh Tale or on the island before? It could happen on several occations, even after Luffy getting the One Piece. Its not like they couldnt have met already x times in the story but shanks prefered to hide from Luffy.
You connect it to the RP, just because you want it to be connected, but there is no necessarity for that at all.
They going to meet, but nobody knows where and under what conditions. Why do you expect it to be on Laugh Tale or on the island before? It could happen on several occations, even after Luffy getting the One Piece. Its not like they couldnt have met already x times in the story but shanks prefered to hide from Luffy.
You connect it to the RP, just because you want it to be connected, but there is no necessarity for that at all.
What do you mean so? My whole point is they had all this and barely defeated BM together (with plot holes). Ain't no way either of them can defeat a Yonko alone. And I'm not even mentioning Shanks' crew.
I don't want it to be connected, the story is connecting it by what Shanks is doing and by what Luffy is doing. They might even meet before, but they will meet with directions already collected for sure.
I don't want it to be connected, the story is connecting it by what Shanks is doing and by what Luffy is doing. They might even meet before, but they will meet with directions already collected for sure.
