[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 09: Throne of Lies

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Lmao

alright. Fair enough. I did highlight it later tho

read his response to that.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Where is this physician role coming from? Am I missing something here?

 

[Kiwipom]

phyisician is not an unique role

I think unlikely. 20 players in this game, there’s 15 types of BD role, we start with 2 cults and a few neutrals. I don’t see much room for doubles.

read his response to that.

Wdym?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

phyisician is not an unique role

wym by not a unique role
are you saying we've had two physicians among blue dragon?
https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Physician
info on physician.

 

[krogothwolf]

read his response to that.

That was the interaction I remembered as well. I was like, pretty sure Kiwi caught something earlier from TAC.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I think unlikely. 20 players in this game, there’s 15 types of BD role, we start with 2 cults and a few neutrals. I don’t see much room for doubles.

Wdym?

his response to you alluding to the claim kiwi

 

[Kiwipom]

Where is this physician role coming from? Am I missing something here?

Physician is doctor. Right now two players are claiming physician

 

[krogothwolf]

wym by not a unique role
are you saying we've had two physicians among blue dragon?
https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Physician
info on physician.

Means The Prince is unique you can only have one same as the king,
Physician you can have two but the odds of it with all the other roles I dunno about.

 

[Ena]

anyways get dark admiral, his meta been off and al sama was scum acting
also al sama got a sub instead of being modkilled so that means he had an important role

vote dark admiral

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Means The Prince is unique you can only have one same as the king,
Physician you can have two but the odds of it with all the other roles I dunno about.

I dont really buy this thesis .
queen's inactivity .
along with this is sus enuff.

 

[Kiwipom]

@Queen when did you realize TAC claimed physician then?

 

[Ena]

@Queen when did you realize TAC claimed physician then?

ngl, I realized it now

Post automatically merged: May 13, 2020

if it's impossible to have two physicians, then get tac
but first we need to get dark admiral

 

[Reborn]

I have few questions for some players. Two players in this post and few in next.


I will start with the my favorite @TheAncientCenturion

Yesterday, during day two, we discussed that we can't rely on results and we have to focus on reads as results can be framed.

Yet, today you immediately jumped on voting queen without asking for Queen claim. Why so much in hurry?

Infact,if I remember well the reason you sussed @Cinera was that he immediately casted vote on you believing flower claim. You did something similar. So why we shouldn't sus you?

Another issue is you flip flopped a lot. From kiwi to queen to unvote very quickly?

Vote lynch @Kiwipom

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What do you have?

UNVOTE @Dragomir

Alright. Share the deets. What do you have?

Then to queen and unvoted her as well.

Apart from this, there is something else I noticed (highlighted part)and I want you to answer that.

I'll just add this now—I trust Neutralwatcher as Paladin and I feel like the odds of Queen being framed during a blind inspection is low. Unless Queen has something to contradict Neutral, I'm going to vote to lynch her.

Vote lynch @Queen

Unvote Queen

I appreciate the due diligence in sharing this but Neutral... I don't like the flopping of info as much. I still want Queen to claim. There's potential for sabotage. BTW, is that


.

Let me jot down for you.

1)Unless queen has something to contradict neutral, you will going to Lynch her. Then why immediately after Neutral watcher said something about mind warp and unvoted( let me remind you that you were already aware yesterday about result could be framed) you unvoted queen as well instead of waiting for queen to counter neutral as you said in earlier post??

2) you said to Neutral that you don't like flopping but didn't you flip flop votes in quick succession ?? So, based on your own reasoning don't you think we have reasons to sus you?

@Natalija there is something odd about you today.

Yesterday, you were hell sure that there is cult in this game and even accused flower just based on your read of "social/support" that she is cult but today you made these two posts about unseen being present in the game

What changed your mind?

Ermmm, are these stories true to the game and should be understood that we have Unseen and a bad king? :')

He very well might be Unseen playing 5D chess and trying to hide his faction

Now you accused NW of being first to get converted last night as he outed himself yesterday. But if I remember well then after flower claim it was you who counter claim first.

So based on your own reasoning, sus should be on you. Don't you think?

Sure. But you outed yourself and should have been the first in line to get converted this night. And I think you just might be the Seeker today.

Who said I'm Princess?
True, but I'm not game savvy enough yet to make crazy tactics.

But the most important thing I noticed is this (highlighted part)

Who said I'm Princess?
True, but I'm not game savvy enough yet to make crazy tactics.

Ha................ Two Blue Dragons.............. We have four Cultists today......... And at least a few Neutrals...........

They surely converted two during the night.

Possibly you are ahahaha
Luckily I have a great conversational memory.

You have good conversationalist memory as you self proclaimed yet you forgot that you literally revealed your night result on D2 to be social/support which indicate that you are princess and I think few players did refer your role yesterday as well but now suddenly you asked "who said I am princess"?

Did you forgot your old role?

also, how you are sure that you there is four cults in this game now? No BD can assume this especially when we have no information about conversion.

Is this a slip from you especially if I factor in that you have good conversational memory as well ? LMAO

I have questions for few more players but wait for my next post.




Also, there could be two physician/doctors in this game. Problem is physicians are also one of the most easy to fake claim.

 

[Kiwipom]

Then why did you first say you say you didn’t react to TAC’s claim because:

two physicians is not an impossible scenario

if you only realized he claimed physician now?

this doesn’t make sense

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

neutral said the apostle could have skewed his read right?
but the problem is
the noble has to be converted and that was the role that was just mod killed.
https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apostle
mind warp

 

[Ena]

Then why did you first say you say you didn’t react to TAC’s claim because:



if you only realized he claimed physician now?

this doesn’t make sense

when you said to me he was physician I just thought it was possible to have 2 physicians so it didn't matter

 

[krogothwolf]

neutral said the apostle could have skewed his read right?
but the problem is
the noble has to be converted and that was the role that was just mod killed.
https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apostle
mind warp

Could start with apostle or a second noble or a mystic.

I mean we're talking about odds here for everything and its about the same as having 2 physicians.

 

[Ena]

I personally would love more feedback from @Chrono @Zoro D Goat and @Queen

Do you intend to play? And if not, tell us if you're evil so that we could kill you off :yasu:


Very true.

why you acting like you were converted last night?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

the point about al sama before he got subbed is true tho
should also be looked into
correction the mystique can also be converted to an apostle*

 

[Kiwipom]

I have few questions for some players. Two players in this post and few in next.


I will start with the my favorite @TheAncientCenturion

Yesterday, during day two, we discussed that we can't rely on results and we have to focus on reads as results can be framed.

Yet, today you immediately jumped on voting queen without asking for Queen claim. Why so much in hurry?

Infact,if I remember well the reason you sussed @Cinera was that he immediately casted vote on you believing flower claim. You did something similar. So why we shouldn't sus you?

Another issue is you flip flopped a lot. From kiwi to queen to unvote very quickly?



Then to queen and unvoted her as well.

Apart from this, there is something else I noticed (highlighted part)and I want you to answer that.


Let me jot down for you.

1)Unless queen has something to contradict neutral, you will going to Lynch her. Then why immediately after Neutral watcher said something about mind warp and unvoted( let me remind you that you were already aware yesterday about result could be framed) you unvoted queen as well instead of waiting for queen to counter neutral as you said in earlier post??

2) you said to Neutral that you don't like flopping but didn't you flip flop votes in quick succession ?? So, based on your own reasoning don't you think we have reasons to sus you?

@Natalija there is something odd about you today.

Yesterday, you were hell sure that there is cult in this game and even accused flower just based on your read of "social/support" that she is cult but today you made these two posts about unseen being present in the game

What changed your mind?




Now you accused NW of being first to get converted last night as he outed himself yesterday. But if I remember well then after flower claim it was you who counter claim first.

So based on your own reasoning, sus should be on you. Don't you think?

But the most important thing I noticed is this (highlighted part)




You have good conversationalist memory as you self proclaimed yet you forgot that you literally revealed your night result on D2 to be social/support which indicate that you are princess and I think few players did refer your role yesterday as well but now suddenly you asked "who said I am princess"?

Did you forgot your old role?

also, how you are sure that you there is four cults in this game now? No BD can assume this especially when we have no information about conversion.

Is this a slip from you especially if I factor in that you have good conversational memory as well ? LMAO

I have questions for few more players but wait for my next post.




Also, there could be two physician/doctors in this game. Problem is physicians are also one of the most easy to fake claim.

Solid post. I would like to hear Natalija’s response to this.

Welcome back Reborn!

neutral said the apostle could have skewed his read right?
but the problem is
the noble has to be converted and that was the role that was just mod killed.
https://tol.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apostle
mind warp

Yeah, I mentioned it in an earlier post

I think mystic could also get converted. Or they could of started off with an apostle. Or there’s two nobles (again, I think double roles are unlikely)