Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

Who is the traitor?

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JoNdule

JoNdule

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HeroesNZ said:
If Oda writes every Seraphim losing purely because they turned their flame off unnecessarily then he is a terrible writer.

Don't introduce an overpowered ability if you're gonna write yourself in circles to manage it.

The only way Lunarian abilities make sense is if ACoC/top-tier AP is required to damage them with their flame-on. Or if a character is so strong that the Lunarian needs their flame-off otherwise they might not lose but they definitely can't win, e.g - why King would have his flame off vs Aramaki.

Oda restricting Luffy and Zoro's ACoC thus far is extremely telling. They're here using high-end attacks from their rooftop versions - that tells me that their current high-end attacks are overkill and Oda is trying to maintain tension. As well as not having Zoro brutally maim literal children.

We already knew Shi Shishi Sonson was ineffective vs flame-on Lunarians as King no-sold rooftop Zoro's. We already knew rooftop Zoro's AP was rooftop G4+ level as FDB was the first attack Kaido dodged. So really this chapter tells us nothing we didn't already know. It only comes as a shock as people either didn't want to admit how tough King is or couldn't correctly process it in their mind. We already knew flame-on King's defense was above Kaido's, so Luffy comparing a Lunarian to Kaido here is no surprise. The same Zoro that scarred Kaido thought there was no point in attacking a Lunarian with their flame-on. And Zoro remains the only person in the manga to ever scare a Lunarian in defense mode.
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Luffy isn't using adcoa against them
Zoro was never g4+ level at rooftop. If he was , he would not cry about failing to make kaido fall at least on the ground
EnOu zoro =< Adcoa G4 in AP at best
 
yorosenpai

yorosenpai

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@nik87

Luffy vs Kata 10 + hours
Zoro vs King around 5 minutes

That all we need to know about WORO

Luffy: how can you getting up? Are you KAIDO or something? First thing Goffy think when fighting seraphin/aka lunarian is to approch him with Kaido:milaugh:

Luffy vs Kaido, Goofy get destroyed 5 times and Loda require divine bullshit df reconing to make Kaido fall into Lava

Woro vs King never lost and Woro was permantly nerft due to Enma

WORO > G5
 
Seth

Seth

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Wonder said:
Their weakness is the parry button. Not very overpowered imo but that's just me
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I think Oda's biggest problems with power scaling is that he developed Tite Kubo in himself.

He thinks of a broken ability and here the process ends.

Later even his own editors and readers have no idea what he meant.
 
Anisha21

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Why they always forget to mention everything related to sanji when he does somthing really great ???

He is fighting a seraphim ALONE without any help from a giraffe enemy !!!

But when a joke about him wanting to be stussy’s Dog in a little panel and A GAG dialogue..he was the first to be mentioned in the spoilers that everyone started hating on him before even the full summary was released !!!!!

My boy sanji is suffering from success that even the leakers are so jealous!!! GOSH HE IS AMAZING
:cheers:
 
G

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HeroesNZ said:
If Oda writes every Seraphim losing purely because they turned their flame off unnecessarily then he is a terrible writer.

Don't introduce an overpowered ability if you're gonna write yourself in circles to manage it.

The only way Lunarian abilities make sense is if ACoC/top-tier AP is required to damage them with their flame-on. Or if a character is so strong that the Lunarian needs their flame-off otherwise they might not lose but they definitely can't win, e.g - why King would have his flame off vs Aramaki.

Oda restricting Luffy and Zoro's ACoC thus far is extremely telling. They're here using high-end attacks from their rooftop versions - that tells me that their current high-end attacks are overkill and Oda is trying to maintain tension. As well as not having Zoro brutally maim literal children.

We already knew Shi Shishi Sonson was ineffective vs flame-on Lunarians as King no-sold rooftop Zoro's. We already knew rooftop Zoro's AP was rooftop G4+ level as FDB was the first attack Kaido dodged. So really this chapter tells us nothing we didn't already know. It only comes as a shock as people either didn't want to admit how tough King is or couldn't correctly process it in their mind. We already knew flame-on King's defense was above Kaido's, so Luffy comparing a Lunarian to Kaido here is no surprise. The same Zoro that scarred Kaido thought there was no point in attacking a Lunarian with their flame-on. And Zoro remains the only person in the manga to ever scare a Lunarian in defense mode.
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Looks like he is going to write it in a way that the Seraphim lose their flames when they use their DF powers
 
Wonder

Wonder

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Sir Yasheen said:
Nah it says Days later. But the attack on Amazon Lily which was about when Germa escaped WCI (if not earlier since Amazin Lily is farther from Hachinosu WCI is) took place weeks earlier than that.

So the timeline actually lines up well.
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It doesn't matter because WCI was less than 2 months ago. Maybe I'm missing something but it doesn't seem to work.
 
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