Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

Who is the traitor?


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Zoro was basically stronger than King even before CoC.
Even without CoC, he would have beat him.
Truth vs your headcannon. Zolo admitted defeat Mentally until Enma heard Hiyori's music and look at that Shing and Gassing and that is how Enma made it possible to use CoC before this point there was no CoC. If only Zolofans read One Piece properly instead of skipping the chapters and spewing bullshit headcannon everyday.
 

Gol D. Roger

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This chapter did nothing but confirm the things that we should already know—at least for the people who're using their brains properly.

As long as the flames are on:

Elemental attacks have little to no effect on the Lunarians.
Internal destruction/damage or crushing attacks don't work.
Flame-off is their only known weakness.

Things to be learned:

How much of their defense drops after turning the flames off?
Whether the turning of flames on/off is involuntary or not.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Truth vs your headcannon. Zolo admitted defeat Mentally until Enma heard Hiyori's music and look at that Shing and Gassing and that is how Enma made it possible to use CoC before this point there was no CoC. If only Zolofans read One Piece properly instead of skipping the chapters and spewing bullshit headcannon everyday.
1. I already told you once, NEVER quote me, you wont get a reply.

2. If only you could read what was written in my post...
 
This chapter did nothing but confirm the things that we should already know—at least for the people who're using their brains properly.

As long as the flames are on:

Elemental attacks have little to no effect on the Lunarians.
Internal destruction/damage or crushing attacks don't work.
Flame-off is their only known weakness.

Things to be learned:

How much of their defense drops after turning the flames off?
Whether the turning of flames on/off is involuntary or not.
Tbh it's still weird the flames on/flames off thing. Maybe it's time based; works for X amount of time before turning off? Or an active armor that blocks X amount of damage before turning off automatically? If it's a choice when to turn them off, why would they turn them off at all? It wouldn't really make sense whatsoever.
 
Truth vs your headcannon. Zolo admitted defeat Mentally until Enma heard Hiyori's music and look at that Shing and Gassing and that is how Enma made it possible to use CoC before this point there was no CoC. If only Zolofans read One Piece properly instead of skipping the chapters and spewing bullshit headcannon everyday.
@Kerkovian nah bro

king would still do that to zoro now cause he is physically stronger but zoro would hurt him once his flames turn off. it would be a more even fight but one zoro would still win . I think a critical part people forget is zoro implied he wont win until he figures out what king is ....
and he was right.
him getting coc infusion was about taming enma.


hes told kaku and lucci how their body works
they will hurt the seraphims without coc.
 
Simple to understand king defense in RPG status sense

Kaido dragon defense scale : 5 def ; Kaido inside body including lungs, heats , brain , etc : 0/1 defense

King flame off mode : 10 Def ; King interior or body like heart, brain , etc: 10 Def
King flame mode : 20 king interior body with flame mode : 20 Def

‘Non - advanced coc attack from zoro : 9 AP
Advanced coc attack zoro : 30 AP
 
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