Manga Discussion wHicH mAnGa iS bEttER?

What Shonen/Seinen is the Best?

  • Great Teacher Onizuka

  • Naruto

  • One Piece

  • Claymore

  • Chainsawman

  • JuJutsu Kaisen

  • AoT

  • Bleach

  • MHA

  • FMA

  • The Promised Neverland

  • HxH

  • JoJo

  • Soul Eater

  • Noragami

  • Kingdom

  • Berserk

  • Vagabond

  • 20th Century Boys

  • YuYu

  • Slam Dunk

  • Dragon Ball

  • Vinland Saga

  • Hell's

  • Full Metal Panic


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MUUGEN

The Holy One
#5
Nibba is bitching about EMS/Rinnegan while Haki is the worst powersystem ever.

Powercreep?Like any battleshounen?Luffy was oneshot material for Kaido at the start of Wano,later he fought him on even grounds.Let me guess,that was peak fiction?
I'd say the best powerscaling system is Claymore and equally JoJo's.

The powercreep from both Naruto and One Piece were incomparable - Wano's was primarily just Luffy and Sanji getting buffed Luffy actually had to do training to unlock his dormant haki while Sanji was given a Naruto level buff while the guy was virtually I'd say YC4 at the start of the Arc he used his raid suit which he absolutely despised for some no other reason than to hide his identity and showed he was barely matching P1 then it slow released and began fusing with his genes to give him an even masser buff where he began to ragdoll a YC2 while Luffy just came off of an 11hr+ fight with a true YC1 was an ass pull and a half.

Naruto's power ups were some of the absolute worst Gaimon honestly said it best:
Power creep is when you introduce Pain who low diffs the Leaf village, then everybody gets a power boost to fight Obito (who no diffs Pain), and then you introduce a character that no diffs obito, Madara, and then you introduce a character that no diffs Madara.
I enjoyed Narutos power up with Rasen Shuriken and Sage Mode but everything after that was just one ass pull after another.
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You're saying Naruto is the best Shonen overall or over OP specifically?
 
#7
I'd say the best powerscaling system is Claymore and equally JoJo's.

The powercreep from both Naruto and One Piece were incomparable - Wano's was primarily just Luffy and Sanji getting buffed Luffy actually had to do training to unlock his dormant haki while Sanji was given a Naruto level buff while the guy was virtually I'd say YC4 at the start of the Arc he used his raid suit which he absolutely despised for some no other reason than to hide his identity and showed he was barely matching P1 then it slow released and began fusing with his genes to give him an even masser buff where he began to ragdoll a YC2 while Luffy just came off of an 11hr+ fight with a true YC1 was an ass pull and a half.

Naruto's power ups were some of the absolute worst Gaimon honestly said it best:


I enjoyed Narutos power up with Rasen Shuriken and Sage Mode but everything after that was just one ass pull after another.
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You're saying Naruto is the best Shonen overall or over OP specifically?
Pain should've been the final villain, with a short Sasuke vs Naruto arc to wrap the story up
 

MUUGEN

The Holy One
#9
PT 1 Naruto is peak Shonen

Chimera Ant Arc is the best arc in Shonen.

FMA is my favorite shone from start to finish
I enjoyed Naruto up until when Itachi dies and possibly even before that but thats when things started to go down hill - and this is Manga specific so pre-timeskip I'd say a complete masterpiece. a few things i found wrong at the start was Gaara being named Kazekage after being hated by every single person in the Sand Village he was crown within 3 years he was what no older than 18 surely given we had someone like Granny Chiyo there were other candidates worthy of the title. Introduction of not only Sai but Yamamoto were absolutely wasteful the allowed an Anbu Root into a more prominent named team and Yama was used as canon fodder to create the military for Obito and his War which was not actually his idea it was Madara's whos idea it wasn't actually either it was Black Zetsu's which was not even his idea it was actual Kaguya's. Kakashi essentially disappeared from being Naruto's protector and Sensei. The Pain invasion arc was utter trash at the end he solo'd the entire village just to be swayed by a 5 min conversation resurrecting every single person who we thought had died gicving the manga a wow factor. Itachi as much as i love his plan was god awful and sasukes was infinetly worse even after the revelation, he went from allowing Orochi to be his mentor to grow stronger only to be manipulated again as Obitos puppet. Tobii was an absolute badass until he became Obito and then was also just utter trash. The only true core of Villian that i felt was from The Sound Four, Madara, Akatsuki members like Kisame, Hidan, Deidara and Kakuzu.

Orochi and Kabuto have both been pardon of all crimes. Naruto is just utter trash when it shifts into the 2/3 of the timeskip.

Chimera Ant Arc is highly overrated - dont get me wrong i absolutely love HxH but Mereum is one of the worst Main Villians i've ever seen. Pitou was a badass along with so much that came out of it but I enjoyed the York New and Greed Island Arc better while CAA introduces a lot of cool characters it drags on and on and doesnt really go anywhere with the story overall. Felt as if it was poorly executed I'm not a fan of Adult Gon that was an asspull and a half but enjoyed the consequences of his actions. I have Chrollo and Hisoka as a better anti than Mereum. The storyline started and ended with that Arc where as York New cemented the true MC and Villian - Kurapika and Spiders. The Ants are all virtually forgot about as soon as the final battle wraps. Was a waste tbh

FMA is one of my all time favorites nothing bad to say. Masterpiece.
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Pain should've been the final villain, with a short Sasuke vs Naruto arc to wrap the story up
Pein was dope until he wasn't I would've been content with Tobi or Itachi being the final & i mean Tobi not Obito - if he was revealed to be the true Madara i would've also been content with that.
 
#10
FMA is perfect
I'd say the best powerscaling system is Claymore and equally JoJo's.

The powercreep from both Naruto and One Piece were incomparable - Wano's was primarily just Luffy and Sanji getting buffed Luffy actually had to do training to unlock his dormant haki while Sanji was given a Naruto level buff while the guy was virtually I'd say YC4 at the start of the Arc he used his raid suit which he absolutely despised for some no other reason than to hide his identity and showed he was barely matching P1 then it slow released and began fusing with his genes to give him an even masser buff where he began to ragdoll a YC2 while Luffy just came off of an 11hr+ fight with a true YC1 was an ass pull and a half.

Naruto's power ups were some of the absolute worst Gaimon honestly said it best:


I enjoyed Narutos power up with Rasen Shuriken and Sage Mode but everything after that was just one ass pull after another.
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You're saying Naruto is the best Shonen overall or over OP specifically?
Pain aint no-diffing Obito

And Foddera has no answer to Kamui hence he also loses

Luffy unlocking ACoC by getting hit in his balls was shit
 
#11
I just don't really like nor find credible an enemy that can be swayed by a conversation with a 16 year old.
You dedicated your life to a cause only to be swayed by a child telling you to stop it.
Doesn't matter how good the conversation is, all these characters being swayed by the Talk No Jutsu makes me think that they never atually gave a second thought to their life's cause, and if they did not, why should I give a shit.
Even Orochimaru sees Naruto and changes his ways.
The only character in Naruto that doesn't change his course for Naruto is Madara, but no, evil goddess mastermind was behind that.
 
#12
Chimera Ant Arc is highly overrated - dont get me wrong i absolutely love HxH but Mereum is one of the worst Main Villians i've ever seen. Pitou was a badass along with so much that came out of it but I enjoyed the York New and Greed Island Arc better while CAA introduces a lot of cool characters it drags on and on and doesnt really go anywhere with the story overall. Felt as if it was poorly executed I'm not a fan of Adult Gon that was an asspull and a half but enjoyed the consequences of his actions. I have Chrollo and Hisoka as a better anti than Mereum. The storyline started and ended with that Arc where as York New cemented the true MC and Villian - Kurapika and Spiders. The Ants are all virtually forgot about as soon as the final battle wraps. Was a waste tbh
tbf I used to think Yorknew was better until I watched the 2011 anime, but I think it was just because weekly reading the chimera ant arc was a chore lol
 

MUUGEN

The Holy One
#15
tbf I used to think Yorknew was better until I watched the 2011 anime, but I think it was just because weekly reading the chimera ant arc was a chore lol
it was dragged on animated its a fun watch and exciting sure but what does it do for the story why were they even introduced to begin with, where did they even come from?

just felt like an utter waste to me tbh i mean look at what it did to Togashi the dude doesnt even draw he just writes now. I genuinely believe the story line would've been better off without it. The coolest part of it all for me was being able to see Feitan and Netero other than that it was just filler for Killua to progress and Gon to be nerfed to oblivion to allow him to be a kid while killing off Netero to allowed for the Dark Continent to happen.
You are missing the best one, friend.
Slam Dunk.
In its absence it's a close contender between Jojo and Berserk.
Then a power gap to anything else.
haaha i thought i did add it but ill do it rn
 
#17
it was dragged on animated its a fun watch and exciting sure but what does it do for the story why were they even introduced to begin with, where did they even come from?
They're from the Dark Continent and the whole point is to mirror what humans do to native species.
 
#20
I can tell users like Gaimon and Muugen don't like series that are character driven. Lmao now they are even ripping Chimera arc. "Chinema arc was filler for Gon and Killua's character development". That says it all.

I just don't really like nor find credible an enemy that can be swayed by a conversation with a 16 year old.
You dedicated your life to a cause only to be swayed by a child telling you to stop it.
Doesn't matter how good the conversation is, all these characters being swayed by the Talk No Jutsu makes me think that they never atually gave a second thought to their life's cause, and if they did not, why should I give a shit.
Even Orochimaru sees Naruto and changes his ways.
The only character in Naruto that doesn't change his course for Naruto is Madara, but no, evil goddess mastermind was behind that.
Yea instead we should solve the problem with antagonists by punching them with a big fist instead of actually having them develop. Talk no jutsu >>> anything to do with Luffy fights.
 
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