two separate storylines but i enjoy both equally while Vagabond is my favorite its hard to state which is superior while one is on hiatus indefinitely while the other is still on going and ending soon.
also just realizing JJK is over 200ch is pretty wild to me given how young it still is.
decent list a lot of mainstream though.
mha not a fan of.
a man of culture for the simple fact that Vagabond probably wont be finished i can accept kingdom being higher but not higher than Monster, that is the ultimate masterpiece with one of if not the greatest villain in any medium.
It's tough to say either way imo
They have different strengths while also being somewhat similar - a warrior that ends up living the civilian life and experiencing life from that side (this is very general ofc, there are differences in their circumstances)
Vinland Saga will go down as the better one if the ending isn't a let down. And judging by the story so far it shouldn't be, but we've all said that before for other stories as well lol
Vagabond is my personal favorite and the one I enjoyed more, but sadly it won't see a conclussion.
if you want to discuss who has better character development between the two overall its One Piece - Naruto focuses on very few characters "developing" .
And this is exactly why I asked you those questions so that I can understand if I am dealing with a dimwit but it turns out that I am indeed dealing with a dimwit. So you said Naruto is a character driven story but has worse character development than One Piece, gotcha. Believe what you want dude. This is why I ask questions before I debate someone.
It's tough to say either way imo
They have different strengths while also being somewhat similar - a warrior that ends up living the civilian life and experiencing life from that side (this is very general ofc, there are differences in their circumstances)
Vinland Saga will go down as the better one if the ending isn't a let down. And judging by the story so far it shouldn't be, but we've all said that before for other stories as well lol
Vagabond is my personal favorite and the one I enjoyed more, but sadly it won't see a conclussion.
And this is exactly why I asked you those questions so that I can understand if I am dealing with a dimwit but it turns out that I am indeed dealing with a dimwit. So you said Naruto is a character driven story but has worse character development than One Piece, gotcha. Believe what you want dude. This is why I ask questions before I debate someone.
I can tell users like Gaimon and Muugen don't like series that are character driven. Lmao now they are even ripping Chimera arc. "Chinema arc was filler for Gon and Killua's character development". That says it all.
Yea instead we should solve the problem with antagonists by punching them with a big fist instead of actually having them develop. Talk no jutsu >>> anything to do with Luffy fights.
You can't tell shit, because I love character driven stuff and actual literature.
I literally said that my favourite manga is Slam Dunk, which your favourite manga completely copied the protagonist friend dynamic btw.
Or Berserk.
As you said, Lee, One Piece is not a character driven manga, and as such, it doesn't need that.
It's a battle shonen with a stong emphasis on the overall mistery of the One Piece.
And Naruto doesn't solve anything, they literally recant their whole life because Naruto shows them that the Ninja way is to trust yourself and your friends.
Naruto haters make no sense.
If they pick 10 things from their favorite manga, Naruto does it better 8 out of those 10 things.
Their criticism is basic. Just like how people call One Piece long, it has weird designs, it is goofy etc. But OP's actual problems are entirely different.
They talk about power ups and shafted characters, but dont know how Law outshined most of the SHs including Sanji and Zoro.
They say why there were aliens, but forgot that white zetsu was there whole series (more like childish insults than criticism).
Tbh, I am not the one for toxic debates.
I asked you to list what was better than 5 separate mangas had nothing to do with one piece to begin with Lee somehow managed to convince not just himself but you as well that that was my focal point, never even mentioned one piece.
you’re both claiming Naruto is greatest piece of manga to exist when it isn’t it’s not even a top 10 probably not even top 20.
furthermore my topic points against Lee had nothing to do with any nonsense you listed for the Naruto haters criticisms or as you referred childish insults.
the simple fact of how illiterate both you and @lee33 is telling.
I don’t even have Naruto or One Piece in my top 10.
not even my topic point you said:
I asked you to list what was better than 5 separate mangas had nothing to do with one piece to begin with Lee somehow managed not just himself but you as well that that was my focal point, never even mentioned one piece.
you’re both claiming Naruto is greatest piece of manga to exist when it isn’t it’s not even a top 10 probably not even top 20.
I did however answer your question of:
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furthermore my topic points against Lee had nothing to do with any nonsense you listed for the Naruto haters criticisms or as you referred childish insults.
you can list whatever is your favorite tbh its not really specific, i just dumbed it down to shounen/seinen specific since it was our topic point on a previous thread.
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