Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1078 Spoilers Discussion

[huggertkettle]

Black Vegamingo, everyone gets what they want.
Everyone but Kidd fans, he's still not getting haki feats.

Kidd fans will get a funeral soon dw

 

[Wonder]

That's not what an deus ex machina is lol. Call it a plot twist or a subversion of expectation but not a deus ex machina. Get your terminology right

Like it or lump it, there isn't sufficient setup of York or anyone else being the traitor in the plot thus far for it to count as a twist or subversion of it.

Like I said, Oda does have a way of making these things "fitting" e.g. Gear 5th as probably the most notable example in the series so far.

 

[SDfear]

"- Sanji is man handling S-Shark. S-Shark isn't taking damage but Sanji has the upper hand by great extent."

Ignore that

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Here's a tool for you fellas to use that I found online
It's a pretty funny little fella

 

[Nikuzi]

Lorj.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

 

[ShadyOjiro]

"- Sanji is man handling S-Shark. S-Shark isn't taking damage but Sanji has the upper hand by great extent."

Sanji is continuously attacking the Seraphim it means.
He's on control.

Like Luffy attacking dragon Kaido in act 1 ,he molly whopped the dragon and even send him to the ground but kaido was fine.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Sanji is continuously attacking the Seraphim it means.
He's on control.

Like Luffy attacking dragon Kaido in act 1 ,he molly whopped the dragon and even send him to the ground but kaido was fine.

 

[Herrera95]

Yep but some people on here mix transformation and moves which make no sense.

Doesn't matter. It is like Luffy using G5 moves with CoC coating. He doesn't need to use his ultimate but he is already using his strongest attacks.

 

[Cruxroux]

Sanji is continuously attacking the Seraphim it means.
He's on control.

Like Luffy attacking dragon Kaido in act 1 ,he molly whopped the dragon and even send him to the ground but kaido was fine.

Lmao.

 

[Wonder]

Yeah it’s either theyre already there or they’re not showing up.

"No"


I wonder if the cover story ends this chapter. Has to be over soon at any rate.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

i think york cant have dont everything and this just proves the situtation is overly complicated and theres at least 3 enemies all trying to get something out of egghead at once. York is doing something to betray everyone, the Marines/CP0 want to blow up the island and kill vegapunk, and I think there's another party there who just killed Shaka

Holding out hope this is another partial fake out.

Really don't want to see this arc get derailed by a shitty, tacked on traitor plotline.

This is why I hate Oda's numerology. The dead zones in arcs just so he can have a certain event happen on a certain date/chapter are insufferable for weekly readers. And then people will gaslight you to your face and pretend Oda would NEVER do that. Hehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Having pirates and the Marines fight over the Vegapunks would be really fun. Hell, that's what I wanted in the first place. Now Usopp is a stone-man and Sanji's trying to commit child murder, fuck off, Oda, just give us what we want, rather than this stupid baity bullshit.

 

[Herrera95]

Sanji is continuously attacking the Seraphim it means.
He's on control.

Like Luffy attacking dragon Kaido in act 1 ,he molly whopped the dragon and even send him to the ground but kaido was fine.

I can agree he has the upper hand but if he is not damaging than it is not by a great extent. This is like saying Chopper had the upper hand by a great extension agaisnt Queen.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

s-hawk mid diff queen @nik87

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

S-Shark is bleeding:cheers:

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Yeah.

All out Luffy that did 0 damage.
Here we learned that how kaido reacts doesn't exactly mean damage ,just him reacting to hits.

 

[Wonder]

Sanji is continuously attacking the Seraphim it means.
He's on control.

Like Luffy attacking dragon Kaido in act 1 ,he molly whopped the dragon and even send him to the ground but kaido was fine.

My guess is it means that he doesn't know about the flames so it isn't doing anything, but Sanji's so mad that S-Shark doesn't have a chance to do anything either

 

[Mr.Baj1o]

"S-Shark isnt taking Damage"

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

How can you say Kanjuro had the least story and personality when Kawamatsu exists.

By the time of the traitor reveal, Kawamatsu had a full dedicated chapter with him and Hiyori and that shape shifting fox… Kanjuro had NOTHING even close to that

 

[huggertkettle]

Like it or lump it, there isn't sufficient setup of York or anyone else being the traitor in the plot thus far for it to count as a twist or subversion of it.

Like I said, Oda does have a way of making these things "fitting" e.g. Gear 5th as probably the most notable example in the series so far.

You don't need setup for a twist. That's why it's a twist because you don't expect it. Whether the twist is good or not doesn't depend on the setup it depends on other factors as well, which aren't necessarily related to the setup. York got her introduction, and now depending on her motives, the twist will either be good or bad, subjectively of course.

My argument was just that it's not a deus ex machina.