Why did York Betray Vegapunk?


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Except Aramaki never coated his plant with haki and King cannot burn it.

King doesn't have mountain ap. Even Dressrosa Luffy destroyed Pica head which is as big as a mountain.

Never stated Aramaki cannot drain him. It's only in your head.

Rayleigh adnitted he cannot low diff FS users including Kataiuri when he said FS users as among the mightiest. No top tier can low diff Katakuri but most can low diff King.

Zoro cannot block nails. Jet Culverin blutzes him and eats him for breakfast
Yes king cannot burn aramaki, same as momo who has kaido's blast breath. Kata is a different case. He has nothing comparable to aramaki to even tank kings flames.

King does have mountain level ap, he exploded himself casually and the blast was almost as big as onigashima skull. Meanwhile katakuri's strongest attack can only make a crater.

Aramaki never drained him. Its in the panel.
Look at queen who was drained vs king who was in pain but not drained.

Luffy cannot even dodge ulti grappling him even with fs, big mom was going to land Prometheus attack point blank on him which he wouldn't have been able to dodge. Or how about he couldn't predict tama getting kidnapped with FS.
Future sight is the most dogshit ability in series and only works when plot demands it.
 
Lmao what? Ryuma legacy is irrelevant Zoro doesn't even know about it.
Enma kills its own user lmao , user has to be skilled enough for it. Mink medicine Gave him twice the pain of Hakai. That's another fest lmao enduring that.


Lmao as I said stop giving luffy plot armour thrice of Zoro and he won't even make past doffy let alone a yonkou.
Condom fighting strategy is literally hit and run. Mf runs away mid fight.
So it's plot armour when another character performs a feat Pinzolo's grandson can't?

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You coping bad bro

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Why can't King burn Mochi? Because you can't come up with a counterargument for it? Akainu can't hurt Kuri now because his COA withstood Red Hawk? The notion that fire can't burn things coated in CoA is ridiculous, to say the least. At best, it offers some resistance and it heavily depends on the level of armament. Katakuri doesn't have strong enough CoA to resist magma-like attacks that are potent enough to affect even Marco's flame. Don't invent non-existing logic to support such irrational wank.

King having worse CoA than Luffy's is a completely groundless argument. Even if King doesn't have CoO that good. He's got speed and flight to not get caught easily. Even if he's caught, he can escape it like nothing with his fire-based attacks. Kuri can't even contain base WCI Luffy, he's not restraining King, period.



Thunder Bagua is Kaido's signature move, not his strongest, and base Kaido KO'ed Luffy. Luffy has a normal rubber body. Anyone can hurt Luffy. That doesn't make Katakuri any special. Once again, WCI Luffy is nowhere near Wano Luffy. Hell, Luffy grew several times during Kaido's fight itself forgetting about an entire arc.



Lol, what makes Katakuri so fast again? That he reacted to Snakeman? What makes Snakeman fast? That he reacted to Katakuri? Remember Kaido outdid Snakeman in freaking dragon form? Snakeman isn't half as fast and impressive as you think it is. For all we know, speed mode King is faster than both. Zoro reacted to Hakai faster than FS Luffy. He also reacted to Apoo almost at the same time as Luffy. FS barely made Luffy look better than Zoro even when they're fighting side by side. Zoro's not lacking in this department. Besides, this is about King and Katakuri. It's funny how you demand that anyone that fights Kuri must have FS while you have little to no argument against King's Lunarian defense and Zoan recovery.
Why cannot King burn Aramaki plant if he can birn mochi? You know King needs to channel his flame power to use magma. If he's buried under mochi, he cannot do that.

King having worse CoO than WCI Luffy is a solid argument. He gets caught by mochi and is suffocated until he dies.

And? It was Kaido's top move that Koed Luffy. Luffy had no trouble tankig normal attack Kaido coated with ACoC. Kijg dies to 1 Thunder Bagua. 3 nornal attacks fron Kaido coated with CoC kills him.

Luffy never escaped when he was burued under mochi. King is done if he gets caught with mochi.

Kaido had to copy FS and Snakeman movement pattern to counter Snakeman. Zoro cNnot use FS or copy Snakeman movement. Luffy did not use FS agaibst Apoo.

Luffy reacted to Hakai first warning everyone. Zpro was the only one mov8ng during Hakai to block it so he's not faster than base Luffy unless Luffy was movong too to dodge Hakai but Zoro reached to Haaki first to block it.

Luffy only boosted his ap on Wano not his dirability. He tanked ACoC aside Thunder Bagua which is Kaido's rop move while King dies from 1 ACoC attack. 20 punches are enough to beat flameless King.

Rayleigh thought FS users are special though.

Kaido had to power up using FS to fight a mode that extreme diffs Katakuri while Kaido did not need that for Zoro speaka a lot how fodder current Zoro is compared to Katakuri.

Zoro never reacted to anyhong faster than Snakeman. You cannot prove it. He got hit by nails. Cannot carch Apoo. Good luck hitting Katakuri.
 

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WCI and Wano Luffy had similar durability. Luffy ate ACoC from Kaido. ACoC boosts ap not durability.
Luffy grew substantially during Wano itself. One TB completely put Luffy out of commission during the initial stages of Wano while an already exhausted Luffy took Ragnarock and some other small attacks only to wake up a few minutes later, which is a drastic improvement. Then he got turned into a paste during the second round post-CoC, and then came back even stronger. This time, he took tens of CoC-based attacks and more than one TB to get KO'ed—another drastic improvement from the previously defeated version. Then awakening happened. All of this is without taking your usual passive boosts b/w the arcs after big fights. Comparing the two versions is irrational on many levels.

Zoro only used 2 ACoC attacks. Onigiri which King tanked and Dragon Damnation thay 1 shot King
Flame off King is a glass canon compared to Luffy
lol, what? Oden had Kaido on the ground at his mercy with one hit. Was he a glass canon too? Zoro's attacks are simply that strong. Even the weakest section of his attacks is making Kaido scream in pain. WCI Katakuri and Luffy have dog shit AP, so they take 100s of attacks to put people down. That doesn't mean all others have to do the same. What's your take on the current G4 Luffy failing to put down a 13-year-old King's clone even after a Kong Organ? Even Kaido stayed on the ground longer than S-bear after Kong Organ. S-bear took Lucci's attack on top of Kong Organ.

Flame off King took an attack that was drawn in parallel to the attack that had Kaido on the ground. What does that make Kaido?
 
Zoro is what he is today because of his own hardwork. Not with a plot armour as thicc as luffy and sanji.
Yes, it is not plot armor that he get to train in a dojo by a master swordsman. And also get to train during timeskip under WSS.
Having CoC and being a SH itself a big plot armor, otherwise he would be dead by Morgan's.
And because of the same plot armor, he was lost while riding tiger so he couldn't face Kaidou.
And plot armor is the reason he could take Hakai when Killer attack put him in sleep.
What happened to grim reaper? If he is not special and just normal human, he would be dead.
Spare me hardwork bullshit. Elephant can't jump like a bird by doing hardwork.
And plot armor is the reason he conveniently know how to cut fire.
Sanji is the only person with less plot armor.
 
Try healing being split in half
Yeah…..just like how he did any character in the ENTIRETY OF THE FUCKING SERIES???? LMFAOOOOOOOOOO :lulz::lulz::lulz::lulz::lulz::lulz::lulz:
Same Zoro that took Hakai from 2 yonkos which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ifrit and went on to clown kaido with Ashura?
Sae zoro who almost died if Law didn’t save him and only survived as long as he did due to ryuma genes and oden’s haki from enma*

sanji would melt the green cuck just by being in the same vicinity as him
ofcourse, he couldn't even stop Chopper combo
So why are you crying like a little girl over the fact? No pirate fight is fair…..oh right you use fan art to support a fske ass ZKK theory we still have yet to see 😂😂😂
 
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Yes, it is not plot armor that he get to train in a dojo by a master swordsman. And also get to train during timeskip under WSS.
Having CoC and being a SH itself a big plot armor, otherwise he would be dead by Morgan's.
And because of the same plot armor, he was lost while riding tiger so he couldn't face Kaidou.
And plot armor is the reason he could take Hakai when Killer attack put him in sleep.
What happened to grim reaper? If he is not special and just normal human, he would be dead.
Spare me hardwork bullshit. Elephant can't jump like a bird by doing hardwork.
And plot armor is the reason he conveniently know how to cut fire.
Sanji is the only person with less plot armor.
And? When did I ever say Zoro don't have it.
I just stated Luffy and sanji got the thickest plot armour out there lmao.
 
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