Manga Discussion Edens Zero

The stuff with Drakken ended very abruptly IMO. I thought we’d get at least one chapter of them fighting. I also can’t believe Valkyrie is dead in this timeline too. I understand why from a narrative sense (because having her and Homura, who basically have the same moveset, would be kinda redundant). But I just want to see more of her.
 
The stuff with Drakken ended very abruptly IMO. I thought we’d get at least one chapter of them fighting. I also can’t believe Valkyrie is dead in this timeline too. I understand why from a narrative sense (because having her and Homura, who basically have the same moveset, would be kinda redundant). But I just want to see more of her.
Valkyrie could be alive even if Homura has the same EG.

Example: Let Valkyrie die after we saw more of her and Homura can get her EG and memories back after Valkyrie died.


"Necessary evil" isn't that something that Cure told to Holy in his battle against her? So Cure is still the mastermind behind Drakken and Nero in U0?

Shiki said next time they will be friends. But maybe the next time, they will fighting each other because of that "necessary evil" stuff. Well at least I hope it. Still like the idea that they will be friends later.
 
Valkyrie could be alive even if Homura has the same EG.

Example: Let Valkyrie die after we saw more of her and Homura can get her EG and memories back after Valkyrie died.



"Necessary evil" isn't that something that Cure told to Holy in his battle against her? So Cure is still the mastermind behind Drakken and Nero in U0?

Shiki said next time they will be friends. But maybe the next time, they will fighting each other because of that "necessary evil" stuff. Well at least I hope it. Still like the idea that they will be friends later.
Drakken was evil in U1 & 2 but he’s more like a grey character in this Universe
The friendship talk didn’t help Shiki in the previous worlds, he even died
But Drakken of U0 has a different heart so it’s plausible that he will become his friend later

Cure could still be behind it but I think that Drakken meant it differently
I think the "necessary evil" thing is like doing dirty things for a good and greater cause
heroes have some kind of codex but Drakken is still ruthless and does shady things for a greater good

I think they’ll have a friendly rivalry later
Shiki, Drakken and Shura could be like Luffy, Law and Kidd
Drakken could be Shiki's Law
 
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Thanks for the tag, @Cross_Marian!

The chapter was actually more enjoyable than the raws. Drakken & Nero bickering like old pals was the best :suresure:

Now, I do wonder if Valkyrie will be the same Valkyrie or not. I'm ok with her being out of the story, but Homura should've been stronger if she trained with actual Valkyrie,no?
 
Drakken was evil in U1 & 2 but he’s more like a grey character in this Universe
The friendship talk didn’t help Shiki in the previous worlds, he even died
But Drakken of U0 has a different heart so it’s plausible that he will become his friend later
Yep. I like that, I don't have a problem with that. I thing it's good to see that this will happen.


Cure could still be behind it but I think that Drakken meant it differently
I think the "necessary evil" thing is like doing dirty things for a good and greater cause
heroes have some kind of codex but Drakken is still ruthless and does shady things for a greater good
Yeah, you could be right with that. I wish it, because I don't want to see Cure again.


I think they’ll have a friendly rivalry later
Shiki, Drakken and Shura could be like Luffy, Law and Kidd
Drakken could be Shiki's Law
Could happen. But I think Shura will die again.


The chapter was actually more enjoyable than the raws. Drakken & Nero bickering like old pals was the best :suresure:
I liked that too. Would be nice to see more of them later.


Now, I do wonder if Valkyrie will be the same Valkyrie or not. I'm ok with her being out of the story, but Homura should've been stronger if she trained with actual Valkyrie,no?
She probably never trained her in U0 or she wanted to train her, but before they could start with the training, Valkyrie was captured/killed.
 
Thanks for the tag, @Cross_Marian!

The chapter was actually more enjoyable than the raws. Drakken & Nero bickering like old pals was the best :suresure:

Now, I do wonder if Valkyrie will be the same Valkyrie or not. I'm ok with her being out of the story, but Homura should've been stronger if she trained with actual Valkyrie,no?
Homura will probably get OV Route Valkyrie
Similar to Shiki and Ziggy
:owo:
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Full summary

Thanks to SanZaiTen

Hermit is back in her old body again. She, Witch,and Sister are as happy as ever to see each other, but they're still sad that Valkyrie is dead, even though they expected it.
Hermit reveals that Müller isn't in this world (or so it seems), so she completed her Ether accelerator research peacefully and the planet Hook wasn't blown up. With nothing else to do, she spent the rest of her time playing games in Digitalis.
Jinn (who's back in his ponytail) says he didn't
meet Müller in this world, either. He became an O Tech willingly because people on his planet use implants to adapt to their atmosphere, though Kleene was too scared to undergo the process.
Then he and Kleene left home to study abroad, but took a wrong turn to Guilst and wound up working for Drakken.
At the Dress Factory, the crew changes Homura into her trademark kimono, but she still can't remember anything. Weisz thinks making her wear a see-through bunny outfit will make her remember. Homura is upset to know that Valkyrie died in the last world.
Oedo (Homura's planet) is seen from afar for the first time. It has a volcano like Mount Fuji, bamboo stalks, and a Shinto gate: stereotypical Japanese imagery.
Homura's UO backstory is revealed: Kurenai left Oedo for work and never came back, and Valkyrie became her guardian and EG teacher. She competed in a sword match for the planet's shogun, but wound up seriously hurting his son, Seiji (Creed), which is punishable by decapitation on Oedo. Although Seiji was kind and defended Homura, the shogun felt he was setting a bad example and sentenced Homura to death.
Valkyrie saved Homura by taking responsibility
and being executed in her place. Since then,
Homura has never been able to use her EG again.
Everyone feels awful that Homura had it so bad in UO when things were so happy for themselves.
The crew decides that the only way to bring
Homura's memories back is through "shock
therapy": by going to Sun Jewel and finding
Kurenai, who she was looking for to begin with before getting caught by Drakken.
The streets of Sun Jewel are empty, and there are "emergency" signs everywhere. Shiki and the rest try telling Homura about Kurenai, but Homura instantly figures out she was a real piece of work and is ready for her. The crew isn't sure if finding her will restore Homura's memories, or if she even is "Madame Kurenai".
A man runs out and warns the crew that Stones are invading the upper levels from the blockade zone (UO's version of the labor district). He tries taking them to a shelter while leaving the monsters to the Punishers, the "guardian deities" of Sun Jewel (in the old world, the Punishers were the name of Kurenai's robot soldiers).
The Punishers arrive on the scene. It's made up of the three rebel guys on Sun Jewel from the last world; the Zaiten Three (Nino, Garrot, and Baku); and their leader: Kurenai herself. Shiki and Homura go cold when they see her.
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Title of the next chapter:
Sword Flash
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Unlikely, too much build-up for her return....
I really look forward to Dark shining stars and would love to know their history with our Edens Zero ladies. I hope Mashima explores it. Seems all of them used to be human.
I can’t wait for the dark history of the Dark Age
:finally:
 
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So what if our allies from the previous Universe will be evil?
Like Connor, Nox or even Justice and Elsie?
It’s the world of possibilities after all, so it can go in every direction.
That would be cool.
So far in U0 the OSG and the OSI were never mentioned.

What also is strange, Connor isn't with them nor has Rebecca mentioned him too. Same thing with Labillia.

Maybe in U0 even Labillia will be an enemy?


Maybe Witch will die again
:catblush:
I hope. Maybe she will again die in the Aoi war.


I really look forward to Dark shining stars and would love to know their history with our Edens Zero ladies. I hope Mashima explores it. Seems all of them used to be human.
I wonder where the DS are. In U2/U3 they were with Ziggy and the E1. But in U0 both of them are not there. Ziggy is dead and I don't think the E1 is in U0 or at least not as the true enemy anymore.
So what happened with them in U0? Where are they? And will they be enemies again? If so, who is the boss of them this time? Cure? Shura?
 
That would be cool.
So far in U0 the OSG and the OSI were never mentioned.

What also is strange, Connor isn't with them nor has Rebecca mentioned him too. Same thing with Labillia.

Maybe in U0 even Labillia will be an enemy?

I hope. Maybe she will again die in the Aoi war.

I wonder where the DS are. In U2/U3 they were with Ziggy and the E1. But in U0 both of them are not there. Ziggy is dead and I don't think the E1 is in U0 or at least not as the true enemy anymore.
So what happened with them in U0? Where are they? And will they be enemies again? If so, who is the boss of them this time? Cure? Shura?
I actually like your idea of some allies becoming enemies (Jellal, I mean Justice and his gang could be a good case, Elsie as well), and DS may suddenly end up as allies. Or maybe this world's Jelsie did end up married and their home isn't destroyed, but they're also useless in battle b/c they never trained to be super strong.
 
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