Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1079 Spoilers Discussion

Is this the biggest single-chapter demolition of a character & fandom?

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Gorosei Informer

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Indigo said:
I think it's safe to say, without counting Buggy of course

that Big Mom is the weakest now

she can tank a lot of shit

but she doesn't deal as much damage as the rest of them
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Yeah definitely. I saw the writing on the wall, when I saw Law and Kidd tanking her attacks, especially punching a already brutalised and exhausted Law with haki infused punches and not being able to stop/disorient/stun him, never mind knocking him out or especially killing him too even lol.
Also some of the Wano half of the SHs who didn't even meet her yet immediately clowning her and not taking her seriously at all. Rolling her like a bowling ball, a motorbike to the face and such.

She's definitely the tankiest but also ironically the weakest as you said. Quite the extreme contrast to 5yo Linlin who destroyed that Elbaf village, killed or knocked that bear out at least and killed one of the elder giant leaders too.

She kinda reminds me of Moria tbh.
 
Dark-Abel

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comrade said:
Because titles aren't permanent, Mihawk will also have his title revoked at some point by Zoro. The difference is simple, Mihawk is in his prime, Whitebeard was an old, sick man. And even upon introduction, Whitebeard's title as WSM was undisputed upon introduction, but later in Marineford got revoked by Whitebeard himself, who said he cannot remain the strongest forever, with even Crocodile calling Whitebeard a pathetic weakling and saying "that's not the man I lost to", with Marco agreeing that Whitebeard's condition is worse than expected.

So dunno what's with all the cope. MF Whitebeard was just a shell of his former self. If Mihawk was a 70 year old deadly sick guy, I would also question his WSS title which he only carried as a legacy of his prime.
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Whitebeard did have the title when Roger was around, so you agree Prime Whitebeard was stronger than Roger?
 
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Shimotsuki Ghostly said:
Yeah definitely. I saw the writing on the wall, when I saw Law and Kidd tanking her attacks, especially punching a already brutalised and exhausted Law with haki infused punches and not being able to stop/disorient/stun him, never mind knocking him out or especially killing him too even lol.
Also some of the Wano half of the SHs who didn't even meet her yet immediately clowning her and not taking her seriously at all. Rolling her like a bowling ball, a motorbike to the face and such.

She's definitely the tankiest but also ironically the weakest as you said. Quite the extreme contrast to 5yo Linlin who destroyed that Elbaf village, killed or knocked that bear out at least and killed one of the elder giant leaders too.

She kinda reminds me of Moria tbh.
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She's also the oldest too

i'm guessing Prime Lilin, during her Rocks days, was even more impressive
 
Fleet Leader Fenaker

Fleet Leader Fenaker

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MarineHQ said:
The fight was off-screened. King has no "stronger form". Marco overpowered him on panel and blocked his fire attacks. There's nothing that says King didn't use named attacks. He also used his sword.
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He was RESTRICTED , No jackpot No hybrid form slashes , Like Queen who didn't use his Hybrid Form ,
he didn't overpower shit , instead he bled from fire shots


MarineHQ said:
Zoro was on the ground and out of stamina in a couple minutes. The AP boost of CoC gave him the win.
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Marco could stall better because of his regeneration even against Kaido and BM , he would last better than RT Zoro ; does that mean he is stronger than RT Zoro ?
MarineHQ said:
King was not restricted Lmao
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Nah he is , he didn't use any of his abilities and it goes beyond that , we never saw his swordmanship at his full power , he only went out after Zoro broke his mask something Marco the stalling device for 30 min couldn't lmao
 
Pantheos

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Seraphoenix said:
Name the relevant characters with all this, thanks.


You're better than this. Shanks told us you don't kill needlessly. He could have killed the guy when he spilled his drink on him, but he laughed it off. It was only when lives were on the line, that Lucky killed that guy. Because when you start threatening Nakama, then it's time to fight. Kidd was killing random civilians who posed no threat to him. You know there is a difference. Shanks, even with all that overwhelming force, still first sought a diplomatic solution by telling Kidd to just leave his poneglyphs and run. He could have just given Shanks a copy. Instead he chose violence needlessly and paid the price for it.

Also lol at government dog.
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Luffy has all 3 of it.
Zoro has the legendary lineage, legendary trainer but instead of the DF, he gets legendary swords gifted.

and so on.

and no, the kill on that pirate was never necessary. Shanks showed before he is able to use CoC already, he could have knocked him out without moving at all. He could have blitzed him with several other solutions. Lucky could have shot in the hand of the pirate. But they decided to kill straight up. There was no necessarity.

And nice diplomatic: „Spit on your dream or die.“
Ok one piece, both of it has literally the same meaning.
 
roronoa_fan

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Pantheos said:
What me triggers about the Chapter is not Kid losing. That he wont be able to win this battle was pretty clear from the beginning. Sure, I had the wet dream about him winning, but I knew the circumstances and chances for that are horrible small.



But what me triggers is the way how he loses. Oda makes him eat one simple attack and spits on everything Kid was build up before. Every storyprogress for him, everything his character stands for, every started plotline, buried in dust, just for stupid fakehype, for simple sales.



There is so much content, which Oda decides to just bury with Kid.



Beginning his whole character building in Saboady, together with Killer.

His plotline about Shanks Crew having fought him before. Some redemption hinted, in dust.

His plotline of raiding WCI and stealing what he wanted, hurting some commander. Burried in dust without explanation.

Kid having all types of Haki, incl. CoC, even mentioned by Kaido. Burried in dust, without any further mentioning.

Kids whole story about his crew and their relationship with each other, their adventures. Hinted, but buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotline about “the man with the burned mark”, buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotlines about asking questions in fights and learn out of it, buried in dust.



And this all is just the peak of the iceberg about Kids character which is one shoted buried in dust. For a government dog to get fake hype.



And what hurts me most with someone sympathizing with Kid and Killer, is the result for his crew and the Victoria Punk without any form of respect. This ship was some sentimental connection to the first love of Kid and Killer, her memorial somehow, the memory on the first love as ship. And it gets destroyed and drowned for nothing and with not the slightest form of respect. It not even gets thematized or mentioned. Oda clearly spits on everything around Kid. It’s a disgrace.





But at least Oda sends a clear message to his readers:

“It doesn’t matter how hard you work for you dreams, how strongminded you are, how much you give up for it. You wont reach your goal, as long as you are not from a legendary lineage and get trained by the best in the world. So, if you are born poor, stay like that, be a slave, don’t have dreams or hope. You are nothing, and you will stay nothing. Except you are rich and your lineage is legendary.”
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As there is no mention of him giving up on his dream I think things have improved a lot for him. He's out of the race because he lost the poneglyphs, it's part of the dispute, him giving up after a loss that would make him a real loser.
 
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