There are no signs of using basic haki. If you have it, you are using it. Otherwise you are left with the conclusion that over half of the confirmed haki users in wano weren't using haki for some reason.
The "real" value of Kidd & Law after Wano is about the same of Teach's before the recent increase: 2,2B.
Luffy's was correct with 3B, Zoro should've been 1,6B, Sanji should've been 1,3B, Killer in the range between 1B and 1.3B, Jinbe should've been slightly below 1B.
Only Beckmann of the commanders still stand a chance. And even if Beckmann could have won - or lost - he would not have been one shotting Kidd or taking any arms this time around. He would have been injured himself either way. That's why Shanks stepped in. That's why Roger stepped in against Oden. Rayleigh could have won by himself but at what cost when Roger could simply one shot?
Having said that Kidds bounty is definitely inflated due to the defeats of the yonko + the fact he is a captain. Say Killer got 889M making his and Zoros 1.111 = 2B. They would without a doubt take out 3B Kidd, many even believe Zoro by himself could take Kidd.
It's not a Kidd fault, it's Odas inflation. Jinbei (250), Kuma (296), Doffy (320), Moriah (340), Law (400). These were all awarded Shichibukai status. Even unfrozen Jinbei was only 438.
All of a sudden you have Page One (290), Pekoms (330), Pedro (382), Ulti (400), Tamago (429), Sasaki (472), Black Maria (480)... How can Tamago almost be equal to unfrozen ex-Shichibukai, ex-Impel Down, ex-Sun Pirates Captain, ex-WB allied captain, current Big Mom allied captain? How can Sasaki and Black Maria be above? It's ridiculous.
Oda just keeps uping the ante to make the next antagonist seem relevant and all of a sudden 1B and even 3B means nothing as everybody is in the billions.
I think Luffy's bounty is OK. He didnt defeat Kaido on his own and in first round. Luffy could eat and rest until he won. Luffy isnt defeating Kaido in a 1 vs 1. So his bounty is ok. I think Law and Kidd had a bounty much higher than their worth, since they didnt even defeat Big Mom, they were almost there, but didnt at the end.
Page 1 was 1 shotted by Big Mom lol, why Kidd fought the same Big Mom and wasnt.
Beckman can be debatable, but all his other commanders wont have a bounty above 2 billion which Kidd had. Kidd might not deserve 3 billion, but 2 billion he does. Fought 2 vs 1 against Big Mom which Bounty is 4.3 b, that bounty split to Law and Kidd and they are worth 2 billion for sure.
I think Luffy's bounty is OK. He didnt defeat Kaido on his own and in first round. Luffy could eat and rest until he won. Luffy isnt defeating Kaido in a 1 vs 1. So his bounty is ok. I think Law and Kidd had a bounty much higher than their worth, since they didnt even defeat Big Mom, they were almost there, but didnt at the end.
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Yup, he didnt know nothing except he fought Kaido and Big Mom and came winners, he also knew Kidd had great AP reason he went alone....
So yeah, Shanks saw Kidd dangerous and went to solo.
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Page 1 was 1 shotted by Big Mom lol, why Kidd fought the same Big Mom and wasnt.
Beckman can be debatable, but all his other commanders wont have a bounty above 2 billion which Kidd had. Kidd might not deserve 3 billion, but 2 billion he does. Fought 2 vs 1 against Big Mom which Bounty is 4.3 b, that bounty split to Law and Kidd and they are worth 2 billion for sure.
I think Luffy's bounty is OK. He didnt defeat Kaido on his own and in first round. Luffy could eat and rest until he won. Luffy isnt defeating Kaido in a 1 vs 1. So his bounty is ok. I think Law and Kidd had a bounty much higher than their worth, since they didnt even defeat Big Mom, they were almost there, but didnt at the end.
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Yup, he didnt know nothing except he fought Kaido and Big Mom and came winners, he also knew Kidd had great AP reason he went alone....
So yeah, Shanks saw Kidd dangerous and went to solo.
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Page 1 was 1 shotted by Big Mom lol, why Kidd fought the same Big Mom and wasnt.
Beckman can be debatable, but all his other commanders wont have a bounty above 2 billion which Kidd had. Kidd might not deserve 3 billion, but 2 billion he does. Fought 2 vs 1 against Big Mom which Bounty is 4.3 b, that bounty split to Law and Kidd and they are worth 2 billion for sure.
They were only developing these techniques in the BM fight and they didn't master them until the end of the fight. If they were to have a rematch starting off the fight with the skills they gained at the end, BM would get washed.
A single DP was immobilizing her. And we all know how strong SW is.
In a rematch Kid could snipe her at a distance with DP, providing cover for Law to land all of his SWs. She would get overwhelmed.
They were only developing these techniques in the BM fight and they didn't master them until the end of the fight. If they were to have a rematch starting off the fight with the skills they gained at the end, BM would get washed.
A single DP was immobilizing her. And we all know how strong SW is.
In a rematch Kid could snipe her at a distance with DP, providing cover for Law to land all of his SWs. She would get overwhelmed.
Well, Big Mom was just holding herself with her fingers....
They indeed are strong, but Big Mom was extreme diffing them, she was gonna win the fight if they didnt send her flying. I dont think they will go from extreme diff losing to mid diff winning, that is like 2 or 3 tiers of difference.
After Wano, if they really can use their awakening much better as you mention, at best they can High diff yet, I dont think so, IMO they could win extreme diff.
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