Powers & Abilities Exploring lnternal Destruction CoA for Swordsmen..

#21
You are mistaken... destroying the collar is internal destruction. And it is what Luffy wanted to learn and Hyo's haki isn't up to that level. And only Rayleigh and Luffy showcased this ability. And if you want to count the anime Big Mom did it to her vault door. And Sabo's dragon breath could be related to Internal Destruction.

You need to reread Udon.
Ray destroyed his shackles,that is an internal destruction feat.Hygoro himself said that was above the Ryo he could Teach to Luffy.
l meant Rayleigh has not showcased internal destruction CoA on a sword.. So do you accept that internal destruction CoA is the same for Swordsmen but the Sword charges CoA up and release?..
 
#25
Are you asking if a Swordsman can channel internal destruction through thier Sword? Probably not, because in theory the Sword would be destroyed from the inside.

But the purpose of a Sword is to penetrate regardless. It just doesn't achieve the same explosive effect.
 
#26
Are you asking if a Swordsman can channel internal destruction through thier Sword? Probably not, because in theory the Sword would be destroyed from the inside.

But the purpose of a Sword is to penetrate regardless. It just doesn't achieve the same explosive effect.
That's why i supported my claim with Luffy and Zoro in the same chapter 955.. Both of them are exuding the same amount of Ryuo though Zoro unvolontary.. And Dragon Damnation is basicly the internal destruction CoA version of a Swordsman discharging..

ln theory the Sword should be destroyed but that is not how it works with Meito they just stack CoA up no matter what..
 
#27
To better picture what that sort of CoA would be like for Swordsmen we must first look at what internal Desctruction CoA is..


- The next step to Ryuo by flowing Haki in things
- Making objects and things overload with Haki causing it to destroy from inside out and burst


The most famous example of said ability is the exploding collars which were done by Rayleigh and 2 times by Luffy..
Those collars required more or less Haki to destroy due to their size..

However when it comes to a bigger target such as the Tree Luffy busted open, the amount of energy needed was
considerable.. And a good indication of that was Luffy had to harden his whole arm up to his shoulder..





Coincidentally in the same chapter we get the same measure for Swordsmen.. How much Haki it takes to use internal
Destruction CoA on a Sword..




The thing is Swords of high quality don't break from the amount of Haki they receive, they charge up
that power to release it as a lightning overloaded discharge attack..




And this..




Or even this instance..






Leave your thoughts below..
Shanks is a lightning overloaded discharge man
He stacks haki and abuses his supreme grade sword while making sure to never slice, lest he be flagged as a swordsman and instantly have his power lowered to under Mihawk
 
#29
I think swordsman like mihawk, zoro, oden, and ryuma use their haki in a different way. They put every bit of their haki into their blades with the intent to cut through anything. Most of what we've seen from Roger, wb, shanks, and Rayleigh is more like the way luffy eventually learned to use ryou and the way Rayleigh has been shown to use haki. Divine departure Roger v oden was like Roger playing baseball and oden was the ball Roger had no intention of cutting oden down because Roger wanted oden to go with him
 
#30
I think swordsman like mihawk, zoro, oden, and ryuma use their haki in a different way. They put every bit of their haki into their blades with the intent to cut through anything. Most of what we've seen from Roger, wb, shanks, and Rayleigh is more like the way luffy eventually learned to use ryou and the way Rayleigh has been shown to use haki. Divine departure Roger v oden was like Roger playing baseball and oden was the ball Roger had no intention of cutting oden down because Roger wanted oden to go with him
Did you see my map of Haki for Swordmen?.. Cause it seems as you pretty much agree with it..

Rough Map of Haki for Swordsmen
 
#31
"Internal Destruction" is not a different technique. It's just a stronger version of Ryo. It's like tougher versions of CoA hardening.

Luffy was using ID unconsciously even before training.
 
#32
l meant Rayleigh has not showcased internal destruction CoA on a sword.. So do you accept that internal destruction CoA is the same for Swordsmen but the Sword charges CoA up and release?..
I don't think anyone has showcased internal destruction thru a sword yet. Since All swordman sends their will to their swords to "cut" or not "cut" specific target.


I think swordsman like mihawk, zoro, oden, and ryuma use their haki in a different way. They put every bit of their haki into their blades with the intent to cut through anything. Most of what we've seen from Roger, wb, shanks, and Rayleigh is more like the way luffy eventually learned to use ryou and the way Rayleigh has been shown to use haki. Divine departure Roger v oden was like Roger playing baseball and oden was the ball Roger had no intention of cutting oden down because Roger wanted oden to go with him
That my friend is high level of Swordmanship being able to send a Slash that does not cut thru.
 
#33
I don't think anyone has showcased internal destruction thru a sword yet. Since All swordman sends their will to their swords to "cut" or not "cut" specific target.



That my friend is high level of Swordmanship being able to send a Slash that does not cut thru.
it was stated that not cutting anything was seen as an impressive feat for a swordsman


Did you see my map of Haki for Swordmen?.. Cause it seems as you pretty much agree with it..

Rough Map of Haki for Swordsmen
Yes adolescent beverage, I saw your clusterfuck of a flow chart. There were parts I agreed with to an extent, there were parts that seem obviously flawed.
 
#37
"Internal Destruction" is not a different technique. It's just a stronger version of Ryo. It's like tougher versions of CoA hardening.

Luffy was using ID unconsciously even before training.
lnteresting.. So in your mind is Ryuo equal to imbuing?..
l don't think it's tougher than CoA hardening though it's raw Haki flowing in stuff but it can not flow in the Swords more than hardening so it has to be the power manifested outside of the Sword like this..



I don't think anyone has showcased internal destruction thru a sword yet. Since All swordman sends their will to their swords to "cut" or not "cut" specific target.
lnternal destruction doesn't have to be word for word for Swordsmen since it's when Haki overflow on the Blades..

Yes adolescent beverage, I saw your clusterfuck of a flow chart. There were parts I agreed with to an extent, there were parts that seem obviously flawed.
Alright, i take it.. But Roger still damaged Oden he was bleeding..

LMAOOO notice how @Rootbeer didnt give a explanation on why luffy needs coc to defend
So the Blade won't touch?..


There's no need.
Swords were meant to cut deep and bring the internals out. Spartan way.
Dragon Damnation is not really the Spartan way.. That's why i say it's a discharge of internal destruction CoA..
 
#38
lnternal destruction doesn't have to be word for word for Swordsmen since it's when Haki overflow on the Blades..
But there is no evidence to support this claim of yours. Haki overflow on the blades is called just that. Flow of haki "will". We have no info on what those "smoke" "flames" on Zoro's swords are.
 
#39
But there is no evidence to support this claim of yours. Haki overflow on the blades is called just that. Flow of haki "will". We have no info on what those "smoke" "flames" on Zoro's swords are.
Well the purple Smoke was the same as the green and black lightning when it was not divided.. So it must be CoA..
 
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