General & Others Would Luffy beating Kizaru add to or lessen his hype

Luffy beating kizaru now while zoro/sanji beat admirals later...


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#69
Akainu and Kizaru I always viewed as the top admirals. I think Luffy is broken as hell so I wouldnt lose hype for Kizaru since I am expecting him to get beat.
 
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#70
You down bad.

Zoro beat no top tiers yet

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Zoro until he shows he can beat a Yonko is below Admiral level.

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Oh you are Admiral troop?

Zoro beat King he is a top tier, lower bottom. Fact since his younger versions are giving Yonko Luffy(stronger than Kaido) a hard time. Even that only G5 Luffy is stronger than Kaido G4 Luffy is as strong as Kaido or slighty weaker.
 
#71
The beast and big mom pirate alliance is one organization.
They are still two distinct groups that are relative to one another.

It’s literally the same, you can say “stepping stones to emperor” but the same thing can be said that “Mr. 3 was a warlord heavy hitter as a stepping stone to warlords themselves.
They're not remotely the same. Whole Cake Island establishes the Yonkou Commanders as walls the Supernova could barely overcome even if it's one of the weaker ones like Snack. Neither Mr. 3 nor Blueno had such portrayal.

If katakuri was truly comparable with the others, oda would’ve given him a 1.357 billion berry. But he didn’t despite all the others having bounties around there.
Bounties are irrelevant when power levels don't always play a factor. If Katakuri wasn't comparable, Oda wouldn't make the Yonkou crews relative and make Katakuri the #2.
 
#72
They are still two distinct groups that are relative to one another.



They're not remotely the same. Whole Cake Island establishes the Yonkou Commanders as walls the Supernova could barely overcome even if it's one of the weaker ones like Snack. Neither Mr. 3 nor Blueno had such portrayal.



Bounties are irrelevant when power levels don't always play a factor. If Katakuri wasn't comparable, Oda wouldn't make the Yonkou crews relative and make Katakuri the #2.
They are a single entity as the fall of both organizations happened in the same fight. Narratively they’re one organization.

Don’t try and say CP9 weren’t insanely hyped back in Ennies lobby. Besides most supernova are fodder anyways.

The yonko crews aren’t comparable? They never have been stated to. The balance of powers comes from if one yonko crew beating another a third would crush the Victor. No where is it stated the crews are comparable. That’s just fan made
 
#74
They are a single entity as the fall of both organizations happened in the same fight. Narratively they’re one organization.
Made up of two groups comparable to each other.

Don’t try and say CP9 weren’t insanely hyped back in Ennies lobby.
Did you read One Piece or Crack Piece where the only fights in Enies Lobby was Luffy scathing by against Jabra with help and spending 16 chapters trying to surpass Kaku while the crew escapes Enies Lobby without beating CP9 as a whole?

Besides most supernova are fodder anyways.
Besides the point. As Brulee relayed the failures against Big Mom's Sweet 3, Cracker was pushing Luffy's shit in. This tells the audience the Yonkou crew are on another level from most organizations the Straw Hats have faced in the past.

The yonko crews aren’t comparable? They never have been stated to. The balance of powers comes from if one yonko crew beating another a third would crush the Victor. No where is it stated the crews are comparable. That’s just fan made
It's as if the losing group is comparable to the winning group for the damages to make the latter vulnerable to another comparable group.
 
#75
Made up of two groups comparable to each other.



Did you read One Piece or Crack Piece where the only fights in Enies Lobby was Luffy scathing by against Jabra with help and spending 16 chapters trying to surpass Kaku while the crew escapes Enies Lobby without beating CP9 as a whole?



Besides the point. As Brulee relayed the failures against Big Mom's Sweet 3, Cracker was pushing Luffy's shit in. This tells the audience the Yonkou crew are on another level from most organizations the Straw Hats have faced in the past.



It's as if the losing group is comparable to the winning group for the damages to make the latter vulnerable to another comparable group.
One group as the alliance is a single group.

And I read one piece where luffy spent all of Water 7 getting wrecked by base CP9 then having to use G2 to beat Blueno and even fearing that wasn’t enough. Just because oda slowed the pace down doesn’t make it any different.

The emperor crews are just post timeskip version of warlord crews. It’s the same.

The yonko crew were never called comparable. That was all fan made powerscaling
 
#76
Lessen. I mean its possible cause Luffy defeated Kaido as well, but any egghead fight of Luffy wont be a hugely build extreme diff one.

Kizaru at this point of the story should be able to atleast finish it to a stalemate, if not humble Luffy completely and make him rethink his fighting style.
 
#77
One group as the alliance is a single group.
Still made up of relative two groups, bud.

And I read one piece where luffy spent all of Water 7 getting wrecked by base CP9 then having to use G2 to beat Blueno and even fearing that wasn’t enough. Just because oda slowed the pace down doesn’t make it any different.
Did Luffy have to overcome Kaku or someone similar to Kaku the previous arc to beat Lucci?

The emperor crews are just post timeskip version of warlord crews. It’s the same.
How is Mr. 3 using trickery the same as Cracker rag dolling Luffy or Katakuri forcing Luffy to learn FS the same?

The yonko crew were never called comparable. That was all fan made powerscaling
It's not fan made if it's a canonical fact they stalemate each other and need to upgrade their groups to stand a chance.
 
#78
Still made up of relative two groups, bud.



Did Luffy have to overcome Kaku or someone similar to Kaku the previous arc to beat Lucci?



How is Mr. 3 using trickery the same as Cracker rag dolling Luffy or Katakuri forcing Luffy to learn FS the same?



It's not fan made if it's a canonical fact they stalemate each other and need to upgrade their groups to stand a chance.
It’s a literal single group, doesn’t matter what they’re made up of they’re just one group.

Luffy had to overcome Blueno the third strongest before he could fight lucci lmao. That’s the point.

It’s literally fanmade
 
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