General & Others Would Luffy beating Kizaru add to or lessen his hype

Luffy beating kizaru now while zoro/sanji beat admirals later...


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#41
Because:
Mr. 3 was significantly weaker than Mr. 1/2
Blueno was significantly weaker than Kaku and Jabra
Even Katakuris bounty was much lower than King and Queens

It’s how oda has always written it
Stop.

Katakuri is NOT the Blueno to King and Queen's Kaku and Jabra. They're not even part of the same organization. Luffy fighting Katakuri wasn't the same thing as when he fought Mr. 3, Satori, or Blueno because Katakuri was the substitute boss battle for Big Mom and Luffy's final stepping stone to the Yonkou and Admirals.
 
#42
Maybe if he can one shot Kizaru that for sure will hype up Luffy, maybe even above Shanks. Otherwise it is at best a mid fight before the villain at this stage, on the contrary if he struggles too much to beat Kizaru (if the fight happens at all) that will dehype Luffy.

But I have the feeling the admirals will be taken by BB at this point..
 
#43
Stop.

Katakuri is NOT the Blueno to King and Queen's Kaku and Jabra. They're not even part of the same organization. Luffy fighting Katakuri wasn't the same thing as when he fought Mr. 3, Satori, or Blueno because Katakuri was the substitute boss battle for Big Mom and Luffy's final stepping stone to the Yonkou and Admirals.
Katakuri was the third highest bountied subordinate of the big mom and Kaido alliance which was the ultimate enemy of the yonko saga.

You seriously think that’s a coincidence after Luffy fought the third highest doriki in Ennies lobby, the Mr. 3 of baroque works?

Cmon it’s clear that this was not a coincidence. Hell katas DF is just a better version of Mr. 3s too
 
#44
No because it’s the role Kata played, a minor villain at the end of an arc that connected to a major saga.

Doffy was a major villain, the entire dressrosa saga was about him. Kata was a small intro villain at the end of WCI who literally was not important to the arc other than he fought luffy. Which was literally Mr. 3s role in Little Garden as well.

And yeah Kizarus won’t disappear, but we both know odas going to raise Fujis and Ryos to be well over kizarus in order to “keep tension”
Yes kaido is a bigger deal than katakuri lol that has no weight on how he compares to other characters in the arc


???
Katakuri is stronger than doflamingo
Idk what you're reading but comparing katakuri's role in the story to Mr. 3 doesn't make any type of sense

I feel like I really shouldn't have to explain the baroque works saga because its like a 20 year old saga...so i won't.


Both punk hazard and dressrosa arcs played direct roles into leading the crew to kaido. Whole cake island being a detour doesn't change or effect that

No cause because fujitora and ryokugyu losing to zoro and sanji at a later time has no effect at all on kizaru
Them looking good against zoro and sanji doesn't effect kizaru's hype and portrayal
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Also shouldn't need to be said but mr. 4 > mr. 3 power wise

Also even the blueno and galdino comparison doesn't make much sense ignoring everything else
 
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#45
Katakuri was the third highest bountied subordinate of the big mom and Kaido alliance which was the ultimate enemy of the yonko saga.
The Beast and Big Mom Pirates are separate groups that are relative to each other. Katakuri can't be a "Blueno" if he's the top guy of a Yonkou organization. He'd be relative to King and Marco.

You seriously think that’s a coincidence after Luffy fought the third highest doriki in Ennies lobby, the Mr. 3 of baroque works?
I think there is no correlation between preskip mid arc battles and Luffy going through Yonkou heavy hitters as stepping stones for the Yonkou themselves.

Cmon it’s clear that this was not a coincidence. Hell katas DF is just a better version of Mr. 3s too
Katakuri's DF was meant to mirror Luffy's.
 
#46
The Beast and Big Mom Pirates are separate groups that are relative to each other. Katakuri can't be a "Blueno" if he's the top guy of a Yonkou organization. He'd be relative to King and Marco.



I think there is no correlation between preskip mid arc battles and Luffy going through Yonkou heavy hitters as stepping stones for the Yonkou themselves.



Katakuri's DF was meant to mirror Luffy's.
The beast and big mom pirate alliance is one organization. Katakuri isn’t comparable to Marco and King? That’s like saying he should also be comparable to Beckmna lmao.

It’s literally the same, you can say “stepping stones to emperor” but the same thing can be said that “Mr. 3 was a warlord heavy hitter as a stepping stone to warlords themselves.

If katakuri was truly comparable with the others, oda would’ve given him a 1.357 billion berry. But he didn’t despite all the others having bounties around there.
 
#47
The beast and big mom pirate alliance is one organization. Katakuri isn’t comparable to Marco and King? That’s like saying he should also be comparable to Beckmna lmao.

It’s literally the same, you can say “stepping stones to emperor” but the same thing can be said that “Mr. 3 was a warlord heavy hitter as a stepping stone to warlords themselves.

If katakuri was truly comparable with the others, oda would’ve given him a 1.357 billion berry. But he didn’t despite all the others having bounties around there.
Is dressrosa sabo the revolutionaries cheif of staff and dragons right hand man even before the mera closer to who's who or king?

Is whole cake island blackbeard whos was just as strong then as he is now closer to crocodile or shanks?
 
#48
Is dressrosa sabo the revolutionaries cheif of staff and dragons right hand man even before the mera closer to who's who or king?

Is whole cake island blackbeard whos was just as strong then as he is now closer to crocodile or shanks?
The fact that you’re comparing pirates who’s bounties are constantly changing and a pirate who’s a long time veteran of the new world who we’ve never seen get a different bounty is clear that you have no actual point and is just full cope now.

In case you don’t know:
People at their height of power =/= people still growing and getting stronger lmao
 
#49
The fact that you’re comparing pirates who’s bounties are constantly changing and a pirate who’s a long time veteran of the new world who we’ve never seen get a different bounty is clear that you have no actual point and is just full cope now.

In case you don’t know:
People at their height of power =/= people still growing and getting stronger lmao
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How comparing a specific version of a character that was given a bounty at the time not fair?
Dressrosa sabo is dressrosa sabo not comparing him to his current self or prime self. Sabo got 600 in dressrosa.

Wci teach with 2 bil and current teach with 4 is the same version of teach. Not comparing teach with another fruit or power ups
 
#50
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How comparing a specific version of a character that was given a bounty at the time not fair?
Dressrosa sabo is dressrosa sabo not comparing him to his current self or prime self. Sabo got 600 in dressrosa.

Wci teach with 2 bil and current teach with 4 is the same version of teach. Not comparing teach with another fruit or power ups
Because the world government has had decades to assess Katakuris strength and danger level. Seeing his feats and his power

They’ve gotten days, to weeks to asses Sabo and Luffys.
 
#52
Because the world government has had decades to assess Katakuris strength and danger level. Seeing his feats and his power

They’ve gotten days, to weeks to asses Sabo and Luffys.
That doesn't change im using specific versions of the characters at certain moments

They have just as much time on oven and daifuku but they have lower bounties than pekoms and tamago. Also decades on cracker and don't even know what he looks like. Same with snack and perospero with only one being a sweet commander

If we can't use the bounty of characters that get updates or ones that have been set for years maybe using bounty to scale strength especially between different crews isn't a good idea
 
#54
That doesn't change im using specific versions of the characters at certain moments

They have just as much time on oven and daifuku but they have lower bounties than pekoms and tamago. Also decades on cracker and don't even know what he looks like. Same with snack and perospero with only one being a sweet commander

If we can't use the bounty of characters that get updates or ones that have been set for years maybe using bounty to scale strength especially between different crews isn't a good idea
Do you think there’s a significant change between east blue luffy and Post Alabasta luffy?

No. It’s just the world government better asssesed luffys strenghr.

Bounties for characters who’ve been long established is the in verse way of scaling and how oda does it. You’re just coping
 
#55
Do you think there’s a significant change between east blue luffy and Post Alabasta luffy?

No. It’s just the world government better asssesed luffys strenghr.

Bounties for characters who’ve been long established is the in verse way of scaling and how oda does it. You’re just coping
My guy obviously luffy is stronger after he beat crocodile
Teach is the same level of strength as his 2 billion self
600 was given to dressrosa sabo not current sabo. No ones talking about current of prime sabo

So only the bouties you like or agree with matter?

Please tell me whos stronger oven and daifuku both with 300 or pekoms with 330 and tamago with 429?
 
#56
My guy obviously luffy is stronger after he beat crocodile
Teach is the same level of strength as his 2 billion self
600 was given to dressrosa sabo not current sabo. No ones talking about current of prime sabo

So only the bouties you like or agree with matter?

Please tell me whos stronger oven and daifuku both with 300 or pekoms with 330 and tamago with 429?
He's gonna keep flip-floping or add more nonsense

If in the same crew, weaker characters can have higher bounties than some top guys
Then bounty isn't an indicator

:milaugh:apparently Katakuri as Main fight of WCI is blueno or Mr 3
As if katakuri is part of Beast Pirates
The blueno who lost before wano started was Jack not Katakuri or even Cracker. Since they're not from beast pirates
 
#58
The beast and big mom pirate alliance is one organization. Katakuri isn’t comparable to Marco and King? That’s like saying he should also be comparable to Beckmna lmao.

It’s literally the same, you can say “stepping stones to emperor” but the same thing can be said that “Mr. 3 was a warlord heavy hitter as a stepping stone to warlords themselves.

If katakuri was truly comparable with the others, oda would’ve given him a 1.357 billion berry. But he didn’t despite all the others having bounties around there.
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BMP and beast pirates allied way after WCI ended
Just before the raid started

Your argument would make sense a bit if BMP was allied with BP when WCI was happening

Even then it won't work.
Oda gave Katakuri 1.057 to be 2x above Luffy...1.3B+ wouldnr work!
The whole theme was that Katakuri was twice stronger, faster and 2x more famous in status


Bounty scaling works for Captains and officers from the same crew
Even there there are few exceptions
 
#59
My guy obviously luffy is stronger after he beat crocodile
Teach is the same level of strength as his 2 billion self
600 was given to dressrosa sabo not current sabo. No ones talking about current of prime sabo

So only the bouties you like or agree with matter?

Please tell me whos stronger oven and daifuku both with 300 or pekoms with 330 and tamago with 429?
Bounties of long term established pirates.
And Count Niwatori and Sulong Pekoms are stronger
 
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#60
Since when getting beat adds hype?

That only works for Kid and Luffy since his fans are delusional.
 
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