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MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Melkor/Pein/Mango/Reloaded/X/Adam/UWU/Monochrome/Prof

Would throw Muugen in there too with a plausible fake flavour but he does at least have actions to back him up. However if actions were so easy to confirm we could just mass claim today and win so it obviously won't be, hence his defence being reliant on flavour should be cause for concern.

speaking of actions do you have any shown up in wu?​
 

Apollo

The Sol King
Well its past 3 AM here and my eyes are burning.

A few things on my mind as of now:
-There was that drama with Kiku, but I am more willing to believe her claims, for now. Although I would like to know more about Urahara later on.
-The censuses being 3, makes me doubt the idea that all three holders are town. Since one flipped already, that leaves only two left.
-Ratchet is more likely townie. The busdrive not being claimed and nobody stepping up to reveal the "???" in the start of Day WU tells me that its probably a scum play.

That being said,

unvote

good night everyone.
 

Mr. Reloaded

Professional Backstabber
Well its past 3 AM here and my eyes are burning.

A few things on my mind as of now:
-There was that drama with Kiku, but I am more willing to believe her claims, for now. Although I would like to know more about Urahara later on.
-The censuses being 3, makes me doubt the idea that all three holders are town. Since one flipped already, that leaves only two left.
-Ratchet is more likely townie. The busdrive not being claimed and nobody stepping up to reveal the "???" in the start of Day WU tells me that its probably a scum play.

That being said,

unvote

good night everyone.
Peace!
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Wait you keep profiles on mafia players about how they act in game ?

That is some dedication. I wonder how mine looks like.
Only mentally. You probably do the same, you just haven't thought through it. Basically whenever you think "would this player be capable of faking something like this" you are profiling them, using information that you know of them - their personality, their skill etc ti determine what is and isn't likely for them.
TThat post is fabricated as fuck. When did you have time to write that?
I just wrote it out then.
I have not read much since page 111, to be honest. My brain is dead. But over the weekend I'll be able to sit on front of my laptop and just read for a bit.
That's fine, though I expect you'll need something to claim sooner or later.
Hmm what ur referring to rn? Mr reloaded?
I was referring to you, hadn't really talked to you about my opinion on you this game so figured I'd offer it while we were discussing players.
Also I carried your ass in Ultra's game. GTFO lol.
I'll concede to you doing a lot action wise, and you earned your props. I think I did a lot for the team in the actual thread though - Ultra the host would even agree. I think I played a fairly sloppy game there, actually, and had to lie well to get out of my own unforced errors. I certainly didn't feel like I was "carried" though.
Ratchet is still salty about the Greek game.
I mean, you will be inclined to believe this no matter what I say, but generally I'm over games within a day or two. I've been playing for 10 years, I've had more frustrating losses and I'm pretty sure nothing I can experience now will match them. I think I even said your team deserved the win anyway, which they did - no salt required for that.

This is the issue though Kobe, you've built up this idea of me that you then hold against me without actually knowing a thing about me. I don't really care, personally, but I could tell from earlier when you expressed belief that I wouldn't town core with you because we've argued a lot that you believe I go through games holding past grudges against other players. I simply don't, I get more out of the game by approaching it sincerely. I don't have to personally like someone to be willing to co-operate with them (I actually neither like nor dislike most of the players I play with, for the simply fact that I have no idea who they are outside of Mafia).

speaking of actions do you have any shown up in wu?​
Yes, two, I've already pointed them out. Sword Slash in the Night Phase and Immeasurable Spirtual Pressure this Day Phase.
 
I'll concede to you doing a lot action wise, and you earned your props. I think I did a lot for the team in the actual thread though - Ultra the host would even agree. I think I played a fairly sloppy game there, actually, and had to lie well to get out of my own unforced errors. I certainly didn't feel like I was "carried" though.
I was the one crafting and submitting all the actions while tallying ALL game actions. You slipped early on and almost costed me the game when xenos pulled that one up. Town believeing you at that point does not give you brownie points. I literally put an Oscar performance to get Chucky lynched with Flower after you were openscumming. I was also the one on AM and Psychic.

I did A LOT more lol.

I mean, you will be inclined to believe this no matter what I say, but generally I'm over games within a day or two. I've been playing for 10 years, I've had more frustrating losses and I'm pretty sure nothing I can experience now will match them. I think I even said your team deserved the win anyway, which they did - no salt required for that.

This is the issue though Kobe, you've built up this idea of me that you then hold against me without actually knowing a thing about me. I don't really care, personally, but I could tell from earlier when you expressed belief that I wouldn't town core with you because we've argued a lot that you believe I go through games holding past grudges against other players. I simply don't, I get more out of the game by approaching it sincerely. I don't have to personally like someone to be willing to co-operate with them (I actually neither like nor dislike most of the players I play with, for the simply fact that I have no idea who they are outside of Mafia).
Yes, two, I've already pointed them out. Sword Slash in the Night Phase and Immeasurable Spirtual Pressure this Day Phase.
But you were salty for quite a while. Even argued with Psychic over that after the game for some time. The reason that your "towncore" smells bullshit is because just the other day I pushed your ass in Ekko's game for 20 hours. No way you can turn off the switch just like that.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I was the one crafting and submitting all the actions while tallying ALL game actions. You slipped early on and almost costed me the game when xenos pulled that one up. Town believeing you at that point does not give you brownie points. I literally put an Oscar performance to get Chucky lynched with Flower after you were openscumming. I was also the one on AM and Psychic.

I did A LOT more lol.
I'm not really interested in this ego contest because I have no desire to actually take away from your play that game either. I am content I put in enough to earn the win, I'm pretty sure the host gave all three of us MVP.
But you were salty for quite a while. Even argued with Psychic over that after the game for some time. The reason that your "towncore" smells bullshit is because just the other day I pushed your ass in Ekko's game for 20 hours. No way you can turn off the switch just like that.
Firstly, you shouldn't really discuss ongoing games. Secondly, I very much can - that game is that game, and this game is this one. Different roles, different opinions. I mean by the end of this game you're going to have to concede this point one way or another, so for now you're free to think as you please, we can revisit it post game. Funnily enough you just evidenced my profile of you perfectly - you yourself can't flip a switch between games when it comes to other players, so you believe that it's impossible for anyone to do so.

In terms of being salty, I would say yes at the end of it, and then after about a day that was done with. I will argue anyway - I quite like arguing, and I believe in discussing issues I have with setups because it helps in the future. I used to do this a lot more actually, even as a player towards another player. All of this is to say of course, absolutely none of my behaviour or reasoning towards you has anything to do with losing another Mafia game.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
did you say who you targeted slash with?
You know, it has become increasingly evident to me that you haven't actually read much of the thread. I bet you that if I asked, you couldn't even recall the elements of my claim itself. At best, this is lazy, careless play, especially when you're asked to make an informed judgement on it. Are you even aware that Apollo claimed a Guilty investigation on me?

To answer the question, I targeted John Wayne (UWU). I was hit by two negative actions last night that I was told of - an ability downgrade which reduced the kill from a kill to a rolecrush, and a redirect. I've confirmed with Fuji that a redirect will only show in the writeup as a single-target ability. I also have a passive that alerts other players when I target them. I was redirected to Pot Goblin. I was also blocked by Pero, apparently, but because I was blocked by someone day 1, I was immune to it Night 1.
 
I'm not really interested in this ego contest because I have no desire to actually take away from your play that game either. I am content I put in enough to earn the win, I'm pretty sure the host gave all three of us MVP.
Firstly, you shouldn't really discuss ongoing games. Secondly, I very much can - that game is that game, and this game is this one. Different roles, different opinions. I mean by the end of this game you're going to have to concede this point one way or another, so for now you're free to think as you please, we can revisit it post game. Funnily enough you just evidenced my profile of you perfectly - you yourself can't flip a switch between games when it comes to other players, so you believe that it's impossible for anyone to do so.

In terms of being salty, I would say yes at the end of it, and then after about a day that was done with. I will argue anyway - I quite like arguing, and I believe in discussing issues I have with setups because it helps in the future. I used to do this a lot more actually, even as a player towards another player. All of this is to say of course, absolutely none of my behaviour or reasoning towards you has anything to do with losing another Mafia game.
But you never read me town yesterday. In fact, you were open to lynching me with Michelle. When people called you out for being OK with Michelle being in your pocket, you were like whatever.

For you to say now that you proposed be town core with me over a "GA" indie medium sounds fake as fuck. You claim to know more about his wincon but never asked him if he can relay message from ME to YOU before revealing yourself as Kenpachi/Vig and even sending a message through him to be towncore with me.

Bullshit. A lot of.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
But you never read me town yesterday. In fact, you were open to lynching me with Michelle. When people called you out for being OK with Michelle being in your pocket, you were like whatever.
Michelle actually town read you. After tmSoul's flip, I re-evaluated some reads, though also:
For you to say now that you proposed be town core with me over a "GA" indie medium sounds fake as fuck. You claim to know more about his wincon but never asked him if he can relay message from ME to YOU before revealing yourself as Kenpachi/Vig and even sending a message through him to be towncore with me.
What you are missing here is that the Indie, whose identity I know, claimed to have hard mech info that you were town. Given that I knew them, I weighed up the likelihood of them lying about it, and figured it made little sense given the evidence to hand. With you then as very very likely town, it was time to build a town core with the indie as a proxy. It isn't really about you, the player. Anyone with your role would have been treated the same way. Your contention really lies in how I could have been sure the Indie wasn't lying to me, ti which I say, based off of the conversation I had with him and what I know of the player, I was confident that most of what was said was the truth.
 
Broki and Reborn did this in Weebs when they were pressuring me. I don't think you are less experienced than them that you would make an obvious error şn judgement like that.
 
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