Questions & Mysteries Is advanced CoC really only no touching?

#22
No touch happens
It's not guaranteed

We've seen base CoC being used via contact /collusion of attacks and also done without contact

So adcoc also works the same : you can make contact if you want
This tbh.

Also this is the way to make CoA stay relevant & not being ignores/outclassed, it's bad writing.

- You can ACoC someone with touch, using CoA 1/Hardening/Blackening.
- You can ACoC someone with no touch, using CoA 2/Barrier.
 
#23
This tbh.

Also this is the way to make CoA stay relevant & not being ignores/outclassed, it's bad writing.

- You can ACoC someone with touch, using CoA 1/Hardening/Blackening.
- You can ACoC someone with no touch, using CoA 2/Barrier.
This means Oden or Law then got shockingly impressed by AdCoA, not AdCoC, which would be very strange writing =>
 
#26
Acoc is just infusing your conquerors with your armament
  • Yamato infuses it with their basic armament
  • Luffy can also infuse it with barrier and internal armament
  • Zoro with armament infused slashes
We might see acoc for observation too soon

I personally dont like saying acoc just because how confusing it is. Since their are diffrent levels to it just like armament haki. Mainly because armament haki is the base the conquerors is being infused with
 
#27
Ragnarok, Oden's Paradise techniques, Thunder Bagua, all are touching Ad.CoC techniques.

Just like no touch CoA > touch CoA,

No touch Ad.CoC > touch Ad.CoC as well.

Whats there to not understand? Lmao.

Also CoA is still the important factor in it. Ad.CoC alone can't do anthing, it adds fuel to fire which is CoA.

Also, Ad.CoC Yamato couldn't break explosive cuffs for this reason. She didn't know ad.coa.
 

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#30
Luffy died via all the accumulative damages he took + cheap-shot Ad.CoC hit to his head.

Thats an irrelevant comparison.
That's literally a killing blow from Thirsty Drunk vs a random swing from Hybirid. There's a limit to how dishonest this can get lmao. How about Ragnarock vs. this random non-touching swing? That's irrelevant too? Any evidence that you can't come up with a counter to is irrelevant, right?
 
#31
That's literally a killing blow from Thirsty Drunk vs a random swing from Hybirid. There's a limit to how dishonest this can get lmao.
Dishonesty:
- Ignoring G4 side effects that Luffy mentioned before the final hit
- Ignoring all the previous accumulative damages that Kaido did to Luffy
- Ignoring Guernica by using Tekkai distracting Luffy and letting Kaido land the most clean hit to Luffy who previously said he was done if his next technique doesn't work.

What a lame way to argue, its almost like you didn't read those chapters.

Thats saying like 1 DF BB killed WB so 1 DF BB's attack power is much better than every Admiral attack WB took on that day Lmao.
 

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#32
That's literally a killing blow from Thirsty Drunk vs a random swing from Hybirid. There's a limit to how dishonest this can get lmao. How about Ragnarock vs. this random non-touching swing? That's irrelevant too? Any evidence that you can't come up with a counter to is irrelevant, right?
Also first one is against base Luffy generic kick while the latter is against G4 Supreme Kong Gun, Luffy's ultimate attack.

He's being completely disingenuous.


Also all of Kaidou's highest end attacks are with contact. In fact Kaidou has never shown a single attack where a barrier was used when landing an attack. The only time where it looks like Kaidou used a barrier was in clashes with Luffy, emphasis on "looked like"
 

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#33
Dishonesty:
- Ignoring G4 side effects that Luffy mentioned before the final hit
- Ignoring all the previous accumulative damages that Kaido did to Luffy
- Ignoring Guernica by using Tekkai distracting Luffy and letting Kaido land the most clean hit to Luffy who previously said he was done if his next technique doesn't work.

What a lame way to argue, its almost like you didn't read those chapters.

Thats saying like 1 DF BB killed WB so 1 DF BB's attack power is much better than every Admiral attack WB took on that day Lmao.
The actual lame way to argue is using Luffy to determine the difference b/w two attacks from Kaido lmao. That's a mother of dishonesty. How about Ragnarock vs. this random non-touching swing? That's irrelevant too? :risicheck:
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Also first one is against base Luffy generic kick while the latter is against G4 Supreme Kong Gun, Luffy's ultimate attack.

He's being completely disingenuous.


Also all of Kaidou's highest end attacks are with contact. In fact Kaidou has never shown a single attack where a barrier was used when landing an attack. The only time where it looks like Kaidou used a barrier was in clashes with Luffy, emphasis on "looked like"
My man knows all of this, but his anti-Zoro ego won't allow him to admit it coz it ruins the whole non-touching>touching agenda.
 
#40
If it was, Dragon Damnation would also be no touch on the reveal chapter..
I mean Zoro does want it to touch… He’s a swordsman… he wants to cut king up

We know Zoro can do Barrier CoA since he made a barrier to block the double yonko attack

and we know Zoro can do CoC range blasts as shown with him avoiding King’s disarming move

He can do all those things, but he wants to cut king to shit so he also wants to actually make contact
 
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