Character Discussion Why Kid's loss is genuinely infuriating and Shanks is a trash, unrealistic utopia character created by the delusional daydreams of a weakling nerd

[Lor D. Coast]

No law help
No bombs
No acoc restriction like big mom
Ofc he got one shoted

Fanservice

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Kid and his mediocre crew defeating a healthy emperor + his commanders + fleet + his allies would have been worse fanservice and you were arguing in favor of it lol

 

[Marimo_420]

Here a tissue, you still have some on your lips.

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Lmao just accept Kidd was never an important character like you claimed.
Everything that goes against your headcannons and dumb takes are "fanservice and nonsense"

He picks and chooses what he deems as "cannon" based on his own headcannon. Mihawk Zoro and Midd broke the poor guy

 

[ConquistadoR]

Shanks vs Kid is pure fanservice and nonsense

Rooftop Battle breaks your headcanons?
"Its Fanservice!"
Kid gets one shot and exposed?
"It's Fanservice!"

 

[Formerly Seth]

Cope, mald, seethe and cry. Middo just got one shot like a loser he is.

Perfect.

 

[Blackbeard]

Sugoi is acting like he has been very tough at school, a typical keyboard warrior. If you want a realistic story, why read a manga written for 15-year olds? Read something else.

Kidd has wasted enough panel time, good riddance.

Den Den Mushi of all people liking this post, in a thread shitting on OP.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Den Den Mushi of all people liking this post, in a thread shitting on OP.

I guess she doesn't like bullies and she doesn't like Midd lol

Ofc he got one shoted

0.5 shotted to be exact

 

[BattalGazi]

I hate Shanks, and it's not because of his fans. It's because the entire premise of his character makes me cringe. Shank's entire character is about being a really really nice person that wants everything to be peaceful and for nobody to fight each other. Shanks is a completely unrealistic, deluded depiction of what strong people are actually like in the real world. Even though Oda is writing a battle shounen, he himself has never been a strong person. In school, Oda was a typical passive nerd weakling that hung out with other nerds that all got bullied by people with similar personalities to Eustass Kid (people that were actually tough, fearless and hard working). Oda would daydream, imagining himself as one of those kind badass people you see in generic movies that beat up the bullies and protect their weak friends. Of course Oda never became that type of person , so he created a fictional character to be that person instead, and that's how Shank's was created. Shanks is a character created by the wishful delusional daydreams of a weakling. Oda makes shanks strong because he wants to send a delusional message to the children and nerds reading this manga. That is, being nice makes you strong, whilst being a bully like greenbull or kid, makes you weak. It just shows how disconnected from reality Oda really is, because the truth is, there is not a single strong person in this world that is like Shanks. There is not a single strong person that lets people pour drinks on their head and does nothing like a coward. Everyone in real life with shanks personality is a passive weakling that gets bullied.

Strong people are the ones with the same personality as Eustass Kid. People that are hard working, courageous, ambitious and fearless. People that aim for the very top and will do anything to get there, even if that means tossing their morals aside to dominate and climb above others. People that are ready to take on any challenge required no matter how difficult it may be. People that never give up and keep bouncing back after failing. That is what actual strong people are like. That is Eustass Kid. But despite all that, Oda made shanks win because shanks is a nice guy and kid is not, and that makes me want to f*****g vomit

One shot Shanks.

 

[JoNdule]

You can hate Kid like you want,
This was a waste of time and ink, Oda just doing whatever for the sake of money

 

[Peroroncino]

You can hate Kid like you want,
This was a waste of time and ink, Oda just doing whatever for the sake of money

Everything in the manga is done for the sake of money.
Saying it was for the sake of money doesnt mean anything.

 

[Adamxero]

This is the funniest shit I've ever read the coping and seething is off the chart

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

It's fine to complain about Shanks beating Kid and Killer effortlessly, and yeah, Shanks's Gary Stu traits has been getting little nauseating lately, but you're bitching about an author for not letting the obvious (Kid losing to Shanks) happen. Kid and Law will be big names in the Worst Gen, but they were never important enough to take down Shanks and Blackbeard. They were never going to be Luffy's Whitebeard because that'd require they'd be in second place in the race for Pirate King.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

It's as simple as it gets. Shanks is the "chapter 1 guy", he isn't gonna lose with his whole crew and giants to an afterthought supernova pirate

 

[Sugoi]

Kid barely uses haki , if he had even decent FS he could have Atleast given a mid diff fight to shanks.

And kid "barely using haki" at this point is complete bs and all due to odas shoddy writing. Haki becomes stronger in extreme situations when fighting powerful opponents, and kid fits the bill perfectly, hes been fighting yonkos until his last breath on the verge of death, he has proved his willpower is as high as anyone's, yet oda refuses to let him use powerful haki simply because kid isnt a pure hearted nice person like luffy

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

And kid "barely using haki" at this point is complete bs and all due to odas shoddy writing. Haki becomes stronger in extreme situations when fighting powerful opponents, and kid fits the bill perfectly, hes been fighting yonkos until his last breath on the verge of death, he has proved his willpower is as high as anyone's, yet oda refuses to let him use powerful haki simply because kid isnt a pure hearted nice person like luffy

Oda refused to give Kid the W because he's not important enough to beat Shanks. Being goody-goody had nothing to do with it. There's the possibility that Blackbeard wipes out Shanks.

 

[Owl Ki]

You can hate Kid like you want,
This was a waste of time and ink, Oda just doing whatever for the sake of money

Indeed. Kidd truly was a waste of time and ink.

 

[GoldDiamond]

If it makes thing better kid got defeated by shanks strongest attack + his attack

 

[Sugoi]

It's not about being a nice pacifist, but about not abusing your power over others and using it with purpose.

Shanks is so powerful that Higuma breaking a glass on him is the equivalent of a small dog barking at you, you wouldn't get pissed and kick a small dog barking at you because it poses no threat.
Yet he has Roo murder Higuma's men the moment they show they would kidnap and kill a helpless little kid.

Similarly Shanks went from chill to murder mode the moment Kidd showed he would mercilessly kill people far weaker than him without a second thought, with a lot of damage to Elbaf villagers as well probably.

Hard working or not, Kid is still fundamentally a morally dubious character.

Shanks is like a martial artist master who will fight and defend people when the situation calls for it but knows restraint is important, Kid is a black belt who would kick children for showing up at the dojo.

Kid does not "abuse his powers" he doesn't go and kill weaker people for no reason just because he can. Kid uses his powers with a purpose and that purpose is to become pirate king. To become pirate king you have to defeat the yonko and get the poneglphys and thats exactly why he attacks shanks fleet. Hes just doing what pirates are supposed to be doing. The story is about pirates, not honourable "martial artist masters". It shouldn't be about who's most morally correct

Oda even made shanks say "check if they are still injured from wano", because thats how desperate oda is in potraying shanks as a pure hearted saint. Doing everything he can to make shanks look like superman and kid look like a scumbag. He carefully only lets shanks attack kid once hes solidified kid as the "villain" that "deserves" to be attacked.

And kid is not someone that would "kick children for showing up at the dojo". Kid only retaliates at people when they attack or make fun of him. Hes not evil for that. Thats what normal assertive people do. They stand up for themselves

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kid does not "abuse his powers" he doesn't go and kill weaker people for no reason just because he can. Kid uses his powers with a purpose and that purpose is to become pirate king. To become pirate king you have to defeat the yonko and get the poneglphys and thats exactly why he attacks shanks fleet. Hes just doing what pirates are supposed to be doing. The story is about pirates, not honourable "martial artist masters". It shouldn't be about who's most morally correct

Oda even made shanks say "check if they are still injured from wano", because thats how desperate oda is in potraying shanks as a pure hearted saint. Doing everything he can to make shanks look like superman and kid look like a scumbag. He carefully only lets shanks attack kid once hes solidified kid as the "villain" that "deserves" to be attacked.

And kid is not someone that would "kick children for showing up at the dojo". Kid only retaliates at people when they attack or make fun of him. Hes not evil for that. Thats what normal assertive people do. They stand up for themselves

Kids introduction in the new world was him crucifying people. Kids just a little brat who throws temper tantrums when people make fun of him. This is just what Kid learns for not growing up.

 

[Momonosuke]

Yeah basically stupid writing
Waste of chapter and build ups

There's no need to have Kid vs Shanks if there wouldn't be a real 1v1 battle
If it was just to wank good guy narrative which is silly at this point.

Also Shanks being at Elbaf just when Kid arrived was just too convenient and forced.

he could have made Lid fight admiral or CG in tough battle if he fears having Shanks struggle that much

Shanks sucks, Oda can't seem to know how to write rivals and Villains
That's why Teach now seem underwhelming or average as TOP PIRATE

You're always bitching about something. Mihawk would have negged kid in a manner just as embarrassing. Kid isn't important to the overall story, like he's not even in the top 50 characters who actually contribute to the narrative.

Kid and law getting wrecked without being able to barely put up a fight had nothing to do with them, they're scrubs, while law may have some relevance to the story because of being a d he's still just a side character, kid is barely that much. This was just to show the important characters making their moves. Shanks now has kids poneglyphs, that was as relevant as kid will ever be to the story, he was the one to give shanks his poneglyphs.