Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1081, "Kuzan, Captain of the 10th ship of the Blackbeard Pirates"

[Hiragaro]

This chapter confirms that Aokiji has his own agenda - for those idiots who didn’t believe it.

 

[Roo]

1."Those who loose their way are weak"- this confirms why Crocodile was weak in Alabasta. But also means Kuzan is probably weaker now than when he was an admiral.

Haki means will, it makes sense those lose their way lose willpower. It is basically the headcanon as to why Moria became so weak

 

[rohithkun]

It's not the first time, previously he had a dragon in his ramen bowl, now on his shirt, all of this after Oda said that if Zoro were to consume a DF, it would be Kaido's. Could this be a foreshadowing of what's to come? Zoro with the Uo Uo no Mi Azure Dragon model.

Oda said he would make one of his swords eat it. Enma blasting Boro Breath has nice ring to it.

 

[SmokedOut]

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

If Garp could get such a hit on Kuzan in,you guys think he could have done the same to Akainu back in Marineford?

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung

 

[MarineHQ]

If Garp could get such a hit on Kuzan in,you guys think he could have done the same to Akainu back in Marineford?

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung

Even current Garp could. Dude's pretty insane. As i said before i believe he could've pushed the Admirals to extreme diff at MF, maybe Akainu would've won a bit "easier".

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

If Garp could get such a hit on Kuzan in,you guys think he could have done the same to Akainu back in Marineford?

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung

I always thought he could have killed Akainu even back then.

 

[a_fan]

I already see how this plays out:

A. While garp is fighting aoikiji the other blackbeard pirates start attacking members of Sword.

B. Fodder marines that came with garp and sword now fight the other fodder pirates at full of lead

C. The blackbeard commanders try Jumping garp while he is pummeling aokiji

D. Koby furious begs for assistance in terms of getting his chain uncuffed

E. Prince gruss uses his clay abilities to for a mold of clay in the shape of a key and uses said key to unlocked kobys shackles

F. Koby asks prince gruss and Kuchaku to protect hibari since she is immobile and defenseless and can die if struck while her body is ice. He adds that they have to also assist garp since hibari can only be undone by aoikijis ice if he himself wills it or if he is knocked out by garps attack. With this prince gruss uses his ability to create several golem that protect hibari.

G. Garp tells the rest of sword and the marines to take a ship that's on full of lead and flee.

H. Everyone reluctantly agrees except koby who states that by leaving will be ensuring garps defeat/capture.

I. Helmeppo reminds coby to live on and fight for another day which he told koby at marine Ford with coby stating that if they don't act now then their training for 2 years would have been in vain. We get a flashback with Helmeppo and koby training with garp as they are learning haki with garp telling them what Rayleigh told luffy which is that "haki blooms in battle".

J. With kobys conviction the others (all of the marines present) agree to stay and fight.

K. We see Bogard. He was also on the ship. Commenting on the groups determination

L. We get match ups: (1).Bogard vs shiryu, (2).Koby vs corrupt king, (3).Helmeppo vs Vasco shot, (4). Tashigi, Kuchaku, and Gruss vs Wolf.

M. Swords motive is holding off the commnaders as best as they can long enough for garp to force aoikiji to undo his ice on hibari.

(N). We learn the abilities of sword members:

1. Tashigi knows basic coO and coA hardening along with geppo as well as soru and even has Gentle swordplay. She also took a perfected light saber created from vegapunk.
2. Helmeppo knows basic coO and coA hardening, along with all 6 rokoushiki techniques. He uses Strong swordplay.
3. Gruss knows basic coO and coA hardening, along with his logia clay devil fruit abilities to make many soldiers, weaponry etc.
4. Kuchaku knows basic co0 and coA hardening, along with her paramecia devil fruit that bends inanimate objects to her will once wiped to her.
5. Koby knows advanced coO and basic coA hardening along with all 7 rokoushiki techniques which includes his own variation of the rokougun that he utilizes as punches. He is also able to combine multiple rokoushiki techniques simultaneously with ease.
6. Bogard knows basic coO and advanced coA, along with all 6 rokoushiki techniques along with gentle and strong swordplay. He also carries around and uses smoke bombs

(O). Aokiji and garp are bloodied. Sword members are doing well against the blackbeard commanders.

(P). Corrupt king uses the landscape of the land to try and threaten koby with the idea of crushing hibari showing that he can do so even if gruss clay creatures are protecting hibari.

(Q). Koby is furious and replicates a miniature version of the Galaxy impact garp did in chapter 1080 hitting and completely defeating corrupt king with it. This shocks aoikiji leading him to tell garp "He also has conquerors too? I see why you invest so much in him".

(R). Garp is proud of koby and the ice casing on hibari has been undone. However blackbeard himself along with the other members of his crew has shown up. Garp knowing the severity of the situation is saddened. However we see another marine ship. In it are Smoker, sengoku and xdrake.

(S) . Garp is elated. Smoker uses his fruit to simultaneously collect all of the marines and place them on the ship. Koby and helmeppo are screaming for garp to come with them but blackbeard uses a powerful shockwave against the two. They are both protected by sengoku in his Buddha form.

(T). In the finally of full of lead we see garp attack with another powerful move once more but he is stopped by an invisible shiryu , then quaked by blackbeard and finally frozen by aoikiji for all the marines and sword members to see. Koby and helmeppo cry out garps name

You forgot Moria who will play a role in this. Koby won’t forget about Perona’s request, he’s too kind.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Even current Garp could. Dude's pretty insane. As i said before i believe he could've pushed the Admirals to extreme diff at MF, maybe Akainu would've won a bit "easier".

Yeah ,as current things are getting portrayed.
I think Garp could have done significant damage to Akainu back in Marineford .
I don‘t dare to say who of those 2 would have won back then tbh

I always thought he could have killed Akainu even back then.

I wouldn‘t say killed ,but significant damage to Akainu would be possible imo.

It‘s an intresting topic to discuss ,cause not long back people thought Garp was to "old" to compete with newer generations as some stated on this forum.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

If Garp could get such a hit on Kuzan in,you guys think he could have done the same to Akainu back in Marineford?

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung

Of course.

Garp was Admiral level in his prime, even at 76 he can still push any Admiral to high diff.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Of course.

Garp was Admiral level in his prime, even at 76 he can still push any Admiral to high diff.

If he can push them to high diff at 76 shouldn't he be far above Admiral level in his prime?
I mean, that's where I have him.

Yeah ,as current things are getting portrayed.
I think Garp could have done significant damage to Akainu back in Marineford .
I don‘t dare to say who of those 2 would have won back then tbh

I wouldn‘t say killed ,but significant damage to Akainu would be possible imo.

It‘s an intresting topic to discuss ,cause not long back people thought Garp was to "old" to compete with newer generations as some stated on this forum.

Seeing how Sickbeard performed against Akainu, Garp probably could have won.

 

[Don Diego]

Sakazuki is not Kuzan but they are around the same level. That’s why it took Sakazuki 10 days to beat Kuzan while Garp toys with him. 2 years ago Garp was also 2 years younger. If sengoku hadn’t stopped him Garp would have pulverized Akainu.

- Kuzan clearly holding back
- Sakazuki is no mercy type
- Sakazuki has the strongest offensive in the series (according to Oda)
- Garp is DFless brawler. He's a perfect match up for magma devil fruit user

if Sengoku hadn't stopped him Garp would die on Marineford

 

[Paperchampion23]

Even Oda wanks Bepo

It always bugged me how Oda said this and yet never used it in Wano. Now we know why lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Bepos a loser

You dick eating dog

 

[SakazOuki]

If Garp could get such a hit on Kuzan in,you guys think he could have done the same to Akainu back in Marineford?

@SakazOuki @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung

He probably can but Akainu should be capable of retaliating immediately just like he did against Wb

 

[Monkey D Al]

- Kuzan clearly holding back
- Sakazuki is no mercy type
- Sakazuki has the strongest offensive in the series (according to Oda)
- Garp is DFless brawler. He's a perfect match up for magma devil fruit user

if Sengoku hadn't stopped him Garp would die on Marineford

Sakazuki has the strongest offensive devil fruit according to Oda. Not the strongest offense. Garp is not stupid and knows how strong and what abilities Akainu had yet said he would kill him and this chapter proves he could.

 

[Phantasm]

I'm still a little confused on the timeline. Is it implied that Kuzan joined BB when they met up in the flashback (~1 year before the current time) or did he sit on it until around PH/Dressrosa time as it was initially implied?

 

[Deatheye]

Man imagine if next chapter Augur just warps Law out of crying Bepo's arms back to Blackbeard.

 

[Woozles]

Man imagine if next chapter Augur just warps Law out of crying Bepo's arms back to Blackbeard.

Bepo was under water. Augur would actually die.

 

[sabo]

Law Ftw

Did much better than Kid.
Pushed BB to minimum mid diff


The Heart Pirates will be back and reunited

I wish they join Straw Hats.