Powers & Abilities So we finally have an answer to what happened here....Big Mom disabled Luffy's G4 with Haki.

#6
This isn’t a thing. G4 takes up a lot of energy, as confirmed by Luffy. Go read what Luffy says about G4 after he beats cracker.

Up until act 3 of wano, Luffy never used momentary G4. Why? Why was G4 always his last resort until very recently? Because it takes up too much energy. So much so that even using it for one punch leaves him vulnerable.

If Luffy could use momentary G4 without side effects, why not use it to one shot Hody? Why not one shot Caesar? Chinjao? Wano Luffy would have. Wano Luffy used G4 against a boat, against a number.
 
#7
This isn’t a thing. G4 takes up a lot of energy, as confirmed by Luffy. Go read what Luffy says about G4 after he beats cracker.

Up until act 3 of wano, Luffy never used momentary G4. Why? Why was G4 always his last resort until very recently? Because it takes up too much energy. So much so that even using it for one punch leaves him vulnerable.

If Luffy could use momentary G4 without side effects, why not use it to one shot Hody? Why not one shot Caesar? Chinjao? Wano Luffy would have. Wano Luffy used G4 against a boat, against a number.
It’s weird though because we’re told that Luffy can’t move after G4 because he used up all his Haki. Luffy obviously isn’t using up all his Haki with just 1 Kong Gun
 
#8
It’s weird though because we’re told that Luffy can’t move after G4 because he used up all his Haki. Luffy obviously isn’t using up all his Haki with just 1 Kong Gun
it isn't just his haki

Simply shifting to G4 takes a toll on his body
Look at what Luffy says in the bottom left panel. This was after only one attack in tankman.

Like I said, if Luffy could have gone in and out of G4 pre-wano, he would have done it. There were multiple opponents he could have simply 1 shot if he used G4. Clearly, it wasn't as easy for him.

Learning ryuo and training in udon probably helped him master it.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#11
Firstly:

1st - The g4 lasts much longer than just 1 minute...

2nd - Luffy does not seem to have deactivated his G4 on his own after all he seems perplexed by the fact that he is "losing his powers".

3rd - The g4 lasted a long time against Katakuri, against cracker, against Doffy, but it didn't last even 1 minute against Big Mom, and this coming from a Luffy that was 100% of his energies and Haki.

Let's stop being idiots, there is no problem in Big Mom being able to deny Luffy's G4 using her Haki, after all she has a monstrous Haki capable of that...
 
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Herrera95

#12
It makes no fucking sense. One thing is Luffy running out of haki because he used G4 for a long time. This wasn't the case since he used for a short period. It's unexplained.
 
#13
Much more Big Mom used barrier haki which is what we see in her arm. So she had to use a lot of haki to defend against Luffy AP.

While Luffy just let his power go away going from Bound Man to base.
 
#15
G4 deflating had side effects (white eyes), just like G3 initially did where Luffy turned into a mini-version. After a while, he mastered both.

Luffy deflating had nothing to do with Big Mom. They were having a conversation after the clash.
 
#16
Luffy deflating had nothing to do with Big Mom. They were having a conversation after the clash.
Weird conclusion to come to considering she opens her palm and you can see aura around her hand (with a rattle sound effect) as she smirks at Luffy. Luffy is clearly taken by surprise as he says "Euuh the power is draining."

Her hand usually assumes that position when she goes to steal a soul. It's likely that she has an energy draining ability. Either that or she simply overpowered him with armament haki. Both of these conclusions mean that Big Mom had everything to do with Luffy deflating, as she forced him out of Gear 4.
 
#18
Weird conclusion to come to considering she opens her palm and you can see aura around her hand (with a rattle sound effect) as she smirks at Luffy. Luffy is clearly taken by surprise as he says "Euuh the power is draining."

Her hand usually assumes that position when she goes to steal a soul. It's likely that she has an energy draining ability. Either that or she simply overpowered him with armament haki. Both of these conclusions mean that Big Mom had everything to do with Luffy deflating, as she forced him out of Gear 4.
She can only steal souls through Soul Pocus. This has been shown 100 times. There is a condition of someone having to be scared. She can't just touch and steal souls.

Luffy never gave af and was never scared of BM.

Yeah.. That's why he is surprised that his power is draining...
Whether BM did something or not we don't know.. But he ran out of gas after one clash.
He didn't run out of gas. He was literally fine 30 seconds later.
 
#19
She can only steal souls through Soul Pocus. This has been shown 100 times. There is a condition of someone having to be scared. She can't just touch and steal souls.

Luffy never gave af and was never scared of BM.
I said she likely has an energy draining ability or she simply overpowered him.

You can't read that panel of Big Mom and see Luffy's surprise without realizing that she caused Luffy to come out of gear 4. Also if you're going to reply to someone at least try to respond their actual argument.
 
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