Controversial General Political Discussion

[Tejas]

not as much given the demography of hindus but they did and some stayed for the same reasons exactly why there is a minority in Pakistan

That and the fact that the Quran is very specific on treated of infidels.

 

[BleakAsh]

That and the fact that the Quran is very specific on treated of infidels.

tell me how ifidels are treated in quran and give me context ye.. no out of context ahistorical twisted representation of the text .. or all you'll be proving is how asinine you are to use illiteracy as a mean to come to conclusion .

 

[Monkey D Theories]

the irony is the description of muslims and islam portrayed as some genocidal force in india is contradictory and a historical coz hindus were still a majority in that subcontinent ..why weren't they cleansed like Jews were in Spain by Christian forces ? . They generalize individual crimes to the whole ethnicity and even lumping the religion in it. Nazis of our times ngl

They were conquerors, but they sought to assimilate with the Indian population .

Which is why the Mughal emperors took hindu Indian wives instead of just keeping their bloodline between the turks.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

life isn't fair,balls shouldn't hurt

SAME nofap is so hard when mlp exists

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Only Islam can save the West from Zionist debauchery

 

[NAMELESS]

SAME nofap is so hard when mlp exists

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Only Islam can save the West from Zionist debauchery

wut?

 

[NikaInParis]

That and the fact that the Quran is very specific on treated of infidels.

Do you think India should be inhabited purely by hindus?

And just so there's no misunderstanding, hindus as in adhering to that particular religion and none other?

 

[BleakAsh]

They were conquerors, but they sought to assimilate with the Indian population .

Which is why the Mughal emperors took hindu Indian wives instead of just keeping their bloodline between the turks.

marrying from religions from other than the abrahamic ones is prohibited i really doubt that was the case

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i am not aware of the means of conversions but even force conversions are strictly prohibited

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

SAME nofap is so hard when mlp exists

@Warchief Sanji D Goat come get your man

 

[NikaInParis]

marrying from religions from other than the abrahamic ones is prohibited i really doubt that was the case

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i am not aware of the means of conversions but even force conversions are strictly prohibited

Prohibitions didn't mean much to people in power

Example: Ottoman Sultans with their harems of dozens of "wives" (read: slaves)

 

[Tejas]

tell me how ifidels are treated in quran and give me context ye.. no out of context ahistorical twisted representation of the text .. or all you'll be proving is how asinine you are to use illiteracy as a mean to come to conclusion .

Can you explain these verses

 

[BleakAsh]

Prohibitions didn't mean much to people in power

Example: Ottoman Sultans with their harems of dozens of "wives" (read: slaves)

which is true too but we can't use the harems to generalize and conclude that they compromised the basics of the religion too.. i'm truly ignorant in this regard.

 

[NikaInParis]

which is true too but we can't use the harems to generalize and conclude that they compromised the basics of the religion too.. i'm truly ignorant in this regard.

Not generalizing since I'm unaware of the marrying practices of mugal rulers

I just know that religious rulings were casually "molded" to fit Ottoman sultans' needs and wants so it could have happened in other regions as well.

 

[BleakAsh]

Can you explain these verses

LOL tejas this is low level bait .. i told you completer verses in surash and thier context if you are ignorant htatquran didn;t come down as 1 book but rather verses that spanned 26 or something years dude then you like i said are making ahistorical conclusion usuing shallow and nitpicked interpretations

 

[Tejas]

Do you think India should be inhabited purely by hindus?

And just so there's no misunderstanding, hindus as in adhering to that particular religion and none other?

Hindu identity is geographic not religious. It includes followers of Sanatana Dharma, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs, Taoists, Dharma atheists, Zoroastrians, Non Radical Muslims, Non Proselytizing Christians, etc.

In essence those who don't aim to conquer the land, rather integrate in it

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LOL tejas this is low level bait .. i told you completer verses in surash and thier context if you are ignorant htatquran didn;t come down as 1 book but rather verses that spanned 26 or something years dude then you like i said are making ahistorical conclusion usuing shallow and nitpicked interpretations

So you believe that Quran is prone to alterations and modification?
How many people authored Quran? Wasn't it only Prophet Muhammad's revelations?

 

[BleakAsh]

Not generalizing since I'm unaware of the marrying practices of mugal rulers

I just know that religious rulings were casually "molded" to fit Ottoman sultans' needs and wants so it could have happened in other regions as well.

it could definitely be the most ik are issues fundamentally but i doubt Fiqh given hanafis thrived in that region

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So you believe that Quran is prone to alterations and modification?
How many people authored Quran? Wasn't it only Prophet Muhammad's revelations

straw man and a tangent bro gemme some time i'll take my time debunking that image you so desperately dug up when i challenged you to an academic argument

 

[Tejas]

They were conquerors, but they sought to assimilate with the Indian population .

Which is why the Mughal emperors took hindu Indian wives instead of just keeping their bloodline between the turks.

Just so you know, Mughals:

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A painting in the illustrated Akbarnama showed Akbar at the 2nd battle of Panipat, in 1526 CE, where Bairam Khan & Akbar colluded to behead Hemu. It depicted “Ghazi” Akbar & his army stacking up heads of Hemu's Hindu soldiers into a tower/Minar of victory over Islam’s enemies.

 

[NikaInParis]

Hindu identity is geographic not religious. It includes followers of Sanatana Dharma, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs, Taoists, Dharma atheists, Zoroastrians, Non Radical Muslims, Non Proselytizing Christians, etc.

In essence those who don't aim to conquer the land, rather integrate in it

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So you believe that Quran is prone to alterations and modification?
How many people authored Quran? Wasn't it only Prophet Muhammad's revelations?

What is the cut off for non radical? And non proselytizing?

And what constitutes integration in your eyes?

 

[Tejas]

it could definitely be the most ik are issues fundamentally but i doubt Fiqh given hanafis thrived in that region

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straw man and a tangent bro gemme some time i'll take my time debunking that image you so desperately dug up when i challenged you to an academic argument

Likewise welcome. I too will be looking forward to that

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What is the cut off for non radical? And non proselytizing?

And what constitutes integration in your eyes?

The difference between Abrahamic and indigenous faith systems is that Abrahamic scriptures focus on our and the upon the superiority of the central leader, a well defined theory of friends and foes and suppressing freedom of thinking. The fuel which runs the engines of these ideologies is hatred. Only the objects of hatred change.

In Nazism it is Race, in Communism it is Class and in Islam it is the Infidels.

Whereas indigenous faith systems mean freedom of thinking and oneness with nature

 

[Reborn]

Just so you know, Mughals:

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A painting in the illustrated Akbarnama showed Akbar at the 2nd battle of Panipat, in 1526 CE, where Bairam Khan & Akbar colluded to behead Hemu. It depicted “Ghazi” Akbar & his army stacking up heads of Hemu's Hindu soldiers into a tower/Minar of victory over Islam’s enemies.

Akbar was 13 years old child during 2nd battle of Panipat

 

[NikaInParis]

Likewise welcome. I too will be looking forward to that

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The difference between Abrahamic and indigenous faith systems is that Abrahamic scriptures focus on our and the upon the superiority of the central leader, a well defined theory of friends and foes and suppressing freedom of thinking. The fuel which runs the engines of these ideologies is hatred. Only the objects of hatred change.

In Nazism it is Race, in Communism it is Class and in Islam it is the Infidels.

Whereas indigenous faith systems mean freedom of thinking and oneness with nature

Cool
Now if you could answer my original questions that would be swell