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[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[soheilhazrat]

On the topic of Ifrit tho~legit question what does Ifrit Jambe give Sanji that Diable Jambe doesn't?
Coz as opposed to something like Sanji v Jyabura for instance, it doesn't seem like the heat from Ifrit was the main decider of the Queen fight. In the manga there is an explosion from Beouf Burst so it felt like a significant AP boost but Anime kinda muddies this a bit.

*Also tbf Queen was charred from the Beouf Burst in the manga, so the heat was somewhat emphasized but I think the power of the hit was what ultimately took him out. What do y'all think? Also will be interesting to hear an Anime-only watcher's perspective on this.

I guess simply stronger DJ, no need to overthink

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Yup, he hit him without the IJ one then uses BB, seems like he could only use it for one kick and used on BB before making queen perfect decoy with the previous kick

So it's a homage to Sanji's DJ kick against Jabra then?

I remember Sanji trying to kick Jabra but Jabra block it and Sanji landed his final DJ on him.

 

[soheilhazrat]

So it's a homage to Sanji's DJ kick against Jabra then?

I remember Sanji trying to kick Jabra but Jabra block it and Sanji landed his final DJ on him.

I guess, kinda similar.

since DJ had limit back then we can assume IJ also had limit vs queen and BB was last one. So Sanji made sure Queen doesnt dodge or anything before using his ultimate

 

[PuckTheGreat]

It kinda reminds of when Shanks 0.5 shotting Kidd, people thoughts that the explosion was from Shanks's CoC attack.

As for comparison, Sanji using IJ is like Shanks using Divine Departure then the explosion afterwards is their attack aftereffects.

But I think it's just Kidd's Railgun exploding when Shanks struck him.

As for Sanji's IJ, the explosion happens after Sanji struck Queen with IJ so it's probably AP + explosive aftereffect.

Not really buying the "explosion was from Kid's rail gun" agenda. Kid is not Queen or Franky, his rail gun just shoots metal at high speeds, it's not like some complex contraption made of wires and electrical parts that can short circuit and lead to an explosion when damaged. Moreover we've seen Shanks replicate a similar type of explosion with in Red. In ONE PIECE some swords have abilities like Enma, so the explosion could be coz of Griffin but yh I think the main points of Ifrit are the heat and the explosion it induces. Hopefully Sanji v S-Shark will give will confirm this or at least give us a better idea of how it works ^^

 

[soheilhazrat]

Not really buying the "explosion was from Kid's rail gun" agenda. Kid is not Queen or Franky, his rail gun just shoots metal at high speeds, it's not like some complex contraption made of wires and electrical parts that can short circuit and lead to an explosion when damaged. Moreover we've seen Shanks replicate a similar type of explosion with in Red. In ONE PIECE some swords have abilities like Enma, so the explosion could be coz of Griffin but yh I think the main points of Ifrit are the heat and the explosion it induces. Hopefully Sanji v S-Shark will give will confirm this or at least give us a better idea of how it works ^^

Sanji's combo vs Queen had mini explosions in anime

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Not really buying the "explosion was from Kid's rail gun" agenda. Kid is not Queen or Franky, his rail gun just shoots metal at high speeds, it's not like some complex contraption made of wires and electrical parts that can short circuit and lead to an explosion when damaged. Moreover we've seen Shanks replicate a similar type of explosion with in Red. In ONE PIECE some swords have abilities like Enma, so the explosion could be coz of Griffin but yh I think the main points of Ifrit are the heat and the explosion it induces. Hopefully Sanji v S-Shark will give will confirm this or at least give us a better idea of how it works ^^

Fair enough then. We'll see.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

At least in the anime, once Sanji activated Ifrit Jambe, Queen simply got owned and couldn't compete

In the manga, it looked like Ifrit Jambe wasn't even needed

But at the same time, they hyped Diable Jambe quite well in this episode, especially through the Grill Shot scene. So i think it's all balanced

Making Queen bleed properly with the Ifrit Jambe combo would solve all this imo (i mean, thats how anime portrays damage for the most part)

Anyway, Sanji right now is looking insane even without Diable Jambe. Oda wont sleep on Ifrit Jambe

I'd say Sanji's Ifrit was much more dominant in the manga. Queen didn't even have time to process what hit him and was done by the time Sanji finished his combo whereas in the Anime, Queen was at best slightly annoyed at Ifrit and still put up a fight until the Beouf Burst attack which took him out but yh Queen taking more damage would've helped to make Ifrit look better.

Sanji's combo vs Queen had mini explosions in anime

Just re-watched it and I can't see any explosions, only the impact from Sanji's kicks

 

[soheilhazrat]

I'd say Sanji's Ifrit was much more dominant in the manga. Queen didn't even have time to process what hit him and was done by the time Sanji finished his combo whereas in the Anime, Queen was at best slightly annoyed at Ifrit and still put up a fight until the Beouf Burst attack which took him out but yh Queen taking more damage would've helped to make Ifrit look better.



Just re-watched it and I can't see any explosions, only the impact from Sanji's kicks

The third kick on shoulder seemd to have explosion and dust coming out, no?

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Actually no, just rewatched and you were right @PuckTheGreat

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Pretty sure there was explosion when Sanji kicks Queen.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Pretty sure there was explosion when Sanji kicks Queen.

With BB yes

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

 

[Kyou]

Who’s ready

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[RecoomeBoom]

I just rewatched 1061 and I don't know how people are upset. The fight is so cracked, I like how IJ illuminated the entire hallway blue.

 

[BleakAsh]

MUST WATCH

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People don't realize how nerfed sanji was against queen

- no star shaped DJ with grill shot ( didn't use DJ to its full potentiall)

- no anti manner kickcource (strongest kick)

- no memories to fuel hell memories ( even the anime does't credit it )

- psychological turmoil which is directly linked to his haki ,flames performance

- body's acting up during fight

- has the toll form body crushing and immediately healing

- got whooped by BLack maria before this

- then non stop whooping fodders and smile users and the dude still gets up after a short break

- fought King and queen for decent amount of time while Marco was out of commission

 

[Kyou]

This is the arc

it’s time

 

[Raiden7]

This is the arc

it’s time

Will be a clash. The real fight will not happen now.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Unpopular opinion but I want Sanji to fight/beating S-Shark than clashing with Kizaru tbh.

 

[Kyou]

Will be a clash. The real fight will not happen now.

Unpopular opinion but I want Sanji to fight/beating S-Shark than clashing with Kizaru tbh.

But I need Sanji 2win now so we get Aokiji next

but I see the clash
I just want more

 

[mrtsrdr]

I just rewatched 1061 and I don't know how people are upset. The fight is so cracked, I like how IJ illuminated the entire hallway blue.

Queen : if he keep this speed , he will run out of his energy .
Sanji in anime : i am resting on the wall :)))