Disclaimer/clarification: Generally I do not like making threads that are negative towards any character. In fact I don't think I've ever made a thread about disliking, trolling, slandering any character specifically. However, after the recent events that have been happening in One Piece since chapter 1050, I find myself writing this thread. Acknowledging that this is probably a sentiment not shared by the masses, but also filled with curiosity if there are others share such feelings toward this character now to. Now to me likeability of a character and writing of the character are two different things. So don't take this as me saying Mihawk is a trash written character, the thread is simply to express why I, after 1000+ chapters of having Dracule Mihawk in my top 10 fav characters don't even have him in the top 30.
For years now Dracule Mihawk has been a character I really liked, like we're talking top 10 fav character type shit. I've made giant posts about this dude and where he stands against the emperors and even the admirals. But holy buddha has his character just become non-intriguing and borderline irrelevant for me. Before I explain why no longer like him, I reckon it's probably best I explain why used to like him.
Why I used to like Dracule Mihawk:
When he first got introduced at Baratie, my god, mans had that swagger. His attitude towards Roronoa where he's talking like a superior dude who stands above all and nothing in the damn world is doing shit to him. Then even making a declaration for Zoro to grow strong enough one day to come fight him, and that until Zoro does that he'd wait there at the top. Which led to Zoro making his declarative statement, and Mihawk smirking like "ayeee there we go come at me one day, I can't wait".
Next time we see him he's talking to Shanks who at that point we know is Luffy's pirate idol. And just calls him a 1-armed has been, while exuding the same intimidating aura.
Then we come on to Marineford, I wasn't a huge fan of his presentation with Luffy and how all of that played out (though Luffy in general that arc was just a walking PIS causing terrorist) with Mihawk. However, I did like Vista-Mihawk clash, probably one of my fav moments regarding his since it involved another swordsman. Then there were the trash moments with Daz & Crocoboy, but all em didn't matter much to me. Since that Iceberg slash overshadowed all of those presentations by FAR. After this he leaves the war and marines are like "yo Mihawk where you going bruhh??" Brotha just said heh I done my agreement y'all continue this non-sense war.
From Marineford we then went to his mentoring Zoro. He takes in Zoro after Zoro greatly humbles himself. I really loved this "Goal turned teacher" role for Mihawk. So fucking badass man, homie legit said "im gone train the dude who's eventually gone come fight me." Then his castle and everything about his presentation going into the timeskip was absolutely amazing.
Then the last moment that had me insanely hyped about Mihawk. The Lonewolf about to do his own shit and excited to be chased, with 0 fucks given. LETS GO.
Essentially I just loved his lonewolf type of thing, it made him very unique and made the WSS title itself very unique to me. You had the entity separate from the admirals and the emperors doing his own thing when he wants and how he wants with no regard. I just insanely loved that idea man. But then...we come post-Wano and yea...
Why I no longer like Mihawk:
To get straight to the point, I just don't like his presentation and his character in the world of One Piece is no longer the same.
Now post-Wano he makes his appearance in the Cross Guild non-sense, where him and Crocodile are essentially bitching Buggy. We see his little flashback with Crocodile and how both agreed to form the organization. But he also said he just wanted to live a quieter life (something he had been doing pre-Cross Guild as a warlord). So I figured cool no problem, Oda just wants to use him as a hype tool to elevate two bums and create a gag faction, while Mihawk himself goes away and keeps up his lonewolf persona... Now despite the terrible writing that went into CG's creation, I didn't necessarily mind Mihawk's presentation that much, though still not happy about it.
What was really annoying about this though was Oda making it clear Crocodile was the one doing the actual leading, through "we follow crocodile" instead of "we follow them" or "we follow hawkeye and crocodile"
But chapter 1082 happened, and we are shown Dracule planning shit out with Crocodile for their plan to create a Utopia.
So his character went from:
-> Separate entity who was a top tier without crew or any group on his own unlike the Admirals & Emperors.
-> Lone wolf persona who just wants to chill out and wait for somebody stronger than Shanks to show up.
-> Just badass in general.
To being:
-> Renowned as an underling of 1 of the four emperors who's backed by major criminal organizations of the world.
-> Following Crocodile's lead and legitimately trying to help Crocodile achieve his goal of Utopia. Where he's now planning with Crocodile to figure out how to attain overwhelming strength.
-> He's not the character who's reached his goal and is just waiting for somebody to contend him, now he himself has a goal in creating a Utopian country that can resist any other power.
For me those are two different characters. They're not the same in their essence or atleast in their outward presentation. And I just found it interesting that after reading this chapter and thinking on it I came to the conclusion man... I really just don't give a fuck about Mihawk anymore. Ironically, the character who I've spent a vast portion of my time going against whether it be for the admirals, mihawk, or other characters... Shanks... I've actually started liking his character more now.
I've seen the threads about Mihawk and explaining his "development" or whatever it is, some of it is just based on misconstrued shit about Mihawk's character which I simply disagree with and the other shit is just subjective things that you might like and others might now. That is why I said at the start this has nothing to do with judging Mihawk's character writing... but simply why I personally don't like Mihawk anymore, but others might like Mihawk even more now.
So i'm very curious to know your guys' opinion on how y'all feel about Mihawk after Cross Guild, whether you started liking him more or have a similar opinion to mine, etc.
For years now Dracule Mihawk has been a character I really liked, like we're talking top 10 fav character type shit. I've made giant posts about this dude and where he stands against the emperors and even the admirals. But holy buddha has his character just become non-intriguing and borderline irrelevant for me. Before I explain why no longer like him, I reckon it's probably best I explain why used to like him.
Why I used to like Dracule Mihawk:
When he first got introduced at Baratie, my god, mans had that swagger. His attitude towards Roronoa where he's talking like a superior dude who stands above all and nothing in the damn world is doing shit to him. Then even making a declaration for Zoro to grow strong enough one day to come fight him, and that until Zoro does that he'd wait there at the top. Which led to Zoro making his declarative statement, and Mihawk smirking like "ayeee there we go come at me one day, I can't wait".
Next time we see him he's talking to Shanks who at that point we know is Luffy's pirate idol. And just calls him a 1-armed has been, while exuding the same intimidating aura.
Then we come on to Marineford, I wasn't a huge fan of his presentation with Luffy and how all of that played out (though Luffy in general that arc was just a walking PIS causing terrorist) with Mihawk. However, I did like Vista-Mihawk clash, probably one of my fav moments regarding his since it involved another swordsman. Then there were the trash moments with Daz & Crocoboy, but all em didn't matter much to me. Since that Iceberg slash overshadowed all of those presentations by FAR. After this he leaves the war and marines are like "yo Mihawk where you going bruhh??" Brotha just said heh I done my agreement y'all continue this non-sense war.
From Marineford we then went to his mentoring Zoro. He takes in Zoro after Zoro greatly humbles himself. I really loved this "Goal turned teacher" role for Mihawk. So fucking badass man, homie legit said "im gone train the dude who's eventually gone come fight me." Then his castle and everything about his presentation going into the timeskip was absolutely amazing.
Then the last moment that had me insanely hyped about Mihawk. The Lonewolf about to do his own shit and excited to be chased, with 0 fucks given. LETS GO.
Essentially I just loved his lonewolf type of thing, it made him very unique and made the WSS title itself very unique to me. You had the entity separate from the admirals and the emperors doing his own thing when he wants and how he wants with no regard. I just insanely loved that idea man. But then...we come post-Wano and yea...
Why I no longer like Mihawk:
To get straight to the point, I just don't like his presentation and his character in the world of One Piece is no longer the same.
Now post-Wano he makes his appearance in the Cross Guild non-sense, where him and Crocodile are essentially bitching Buggy. We see his little flashback with Crocodile and how both agreed to form the organization. But he also said he just wanted to live a quieter life (something he had been doing pre-Cross Guild as a warlord). So I figured cool no problem, Oda just wants to use him as a hype tool to elevate two bums and create a gag faction, while Mihawk himself goes away and keeps up his lonewolf persona... Now despite the terrible writing that went into CG's creation, I didn't necessarily mind Mihawk's presentation that much, though still not happy about it.
What was really annoying about this though was Oda making it clear Crocodile was the one doing the actual leading, through "we follow crocodile" instead of "we follow them" or "we follow hawkeye and crocodile"
But chapter 1082 happened, and we are shown Dracule planning shit out with Crocodile for their plan to create a Utopia.
So his character went from:
-> Separate entity who was a top tier without crew or any group on his own unlike the Admirals & Emperors.
-> Lone wolf persona who just wants to chill out and wait for somebody stronger than Shanks to show up.
-> Just badass in general.
To being:
-> Renowned as an underling of 1 of the four emperors who's backed by major criminal organizations of the world.
-> Following Crocodile's lead and legitimately trying to help Crocodile achieve his goal of Utopia. Where he's now planning with Crocodile to figure out how to attain overwhelming strength.
-> He's not the character who's reached his goal and is just waiting for somebody to contend him, now he himself has a goal in creating a Utopian country that can resist any other power.
For me those are two different characters. They're not the same in their essence or atleast in their outward presentation. And I just found it interesting that after reading this chapter and thinking on it I came to the conclusion man... I really just don't give a fuck about Mihawk anymore. Ironically, the character who I've spent a vast portion of my time going against whether it be for the admirals, mihawk, or other characters... Shanks... I've actually started liking his character more now.
I've seen the threads about Mihawk and explaining his "development" or whatever it is, some of it is just based on misconstrued shit about Mihawk's character which I simply disagree with and the other shit is just subjective things that you might like and others might now. That is why I said at the start this has nothing to do with judging Mihawk's character writing... but simply why I personally don't like Mihawk anymore, but others might like Mihawk even more now.
So i'm very curious to know your guys' opinion on how y'all feel about Mihawk after Cross Guild, whether you started liking him more or have a similar opinion to mine, etc.