General & Others Why Akainu is 100% right

L55

L55

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When he said "Don't make excuses for them"
This is a big L for admiral fandom because it confirms the admirals haki game is trash basically without their fruits they can t do anything.
Just look at how Big Mom negged Luffy(after he beat cracker) with just basic CoA and how she 2 shoted Queen with no haki or fruit power
Kaido without fruit destroyed post Kat fight Luffy in 1 hit

But the admirals without fruits can t do anything?

Fujitora is a swordsman he shouldn t need big dc to one shot someone i mean look at Zoro s lion song or oni giri strong attacks that dont have destruction but get the job done
Gb has a "black blade apparently" but can t do anything with it :milaugh:

Please dont compare the admirals with yonko again its a one sided wash

And it seems the holy knights and the gorosei are the true strenght of Wg
Fleet admiral and his admirals are the tobi roppo of wg confirmed

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comrade

comrade

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L55 said:
This is a big L for admiral fandom because it confirms the admirals haki game is trash basically without their fruits
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Note that the admirals fruits weren't even disabled, they could still use a considerable proportion of it, like Aramaki taking on his huge tree-avatar form and using his hax (like absorbing nutrients). It's just that they couldn't go all out, but the question is, why are they only able to beat (healthy) commander level guys by going all out and destroying the entirety of the environment.

Kaido, when one shotting a YC1 level guy:
- Didn't use his DF (hybrid) to amp his physical stats and durability
- Didn't use Haoshoku infusion (just Haoshoku outburst)
- Didn't use high end moves (two handed advanced Baguas, like Bellow Bagua or Destroyer of Death).

A one handed thunderclap in base without Haoshoku infusion was enough to waste Luffy after giving him a free shot via a barrage of punches from boundman that did nothing.
 
L55

L55

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comrade said:
Note that the admirals fruits weren't even disabled, they could still use a considerable proportion of it, like Aramaki taking on his huge tree-avatar form and using his hax (like absorbing nutrients). It's just that they couldn't go all out, but the question is, why are they only able to beat (healthy) commander level guys by going all out and destroying the entirety of the environment.

Kaido, when one shotting a YC1 level guy:
- Didn't use his DF (hybrid) to amp his physical stats and durability
- Didn't use Haoshoku infusion (just Haoshoku outburst)
- Didn't use high end moves (two handed advanced Baguas, like Bellow Bagua or Destroyer of Death).

A one handed thunderclap in base without Haoshoku infusion was enough to waste Luffy after giving him a free shot via a barrage of punches from boundman that did nothing.
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The admirals got nothing on yonko
 
EmperorKinyagi

EmperorKinyagi

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comrade said:
Note that the admirals fruits weren't even disabled, they could still use a considerable proportion of it, like Aramaki taking on his huge tree-avatar form and using his hax (like absorbing nutrients). It's just that they couldn't go all out, but the question is, why are they only able to beat (healthy) commander level guys by going all out and destroying the entirety of the environment.

Kaido, when one shotting a YC1 level guy:
- Didn't use his DF (hybrid) to amp his physical stats and durability
- Didn't use Haoshoku infusion (just Haoshoku outburst)
- Didn't use high end moves (two handed advanced Baguas, like Bellow Bagua or Destroyer of Death).

A one handed thunderclap in base without Haoshoku infusion was enough to waste Luffy after giving him a free shot via a barrage of punches from boundman that did nothing.
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Kaido wouldn’t be able to use Haoshoku in Mariejois since it would knock out CDs.

Without that Kaido can’t even knock out Kiku
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comrade said:
It's just that they couldn't go all out
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Also Aramaki said “damn it’s impossible to fight here!” not “damn I can’t go all out!”

Are you guys unable to read?
 
comrade

comrade

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EmperorKinyagi said:
Kaido wouldn’t be able to use Haoshoku in Mariejois since it would knock out CDs.
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Kaido's Thunder Bagua didn't knock out the beast pirates that were knocked out by Luffy's weaker Haoshoku, which means that Kaido barely had any Haoshoku behind his clap, just a small outburst around the area of impact, which wasn't even infusion. Putting the CDs to sleep without harming them isn't a matter of concern either.

The point is, that Kaido just needs a basic one handed clap to finish Yonko top commander level guys while an admiral needs to go all out and cause massive collateral damage for an arguably weaker opponent.
 
EmperorKinyagi

EmperorKinyagi

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comrade said:
Kaido's Thunder Bagua didn't knock out the beast pirates that were knocked out by Luffy's weaker Haoshoku, which means that Kaido barely had any Haoshoku behind his clap, just a small outburst around the area of impact, which wasn't even infusion. Putting the CDs to sleep without harming them isn't a matter of concern either.

The point is, that Kaido just needs a basic one handed clap to finish Yonko top commander level guys while an admiral needs to go all out and cause massive collateral damage for an arguably weaker opponent.
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So you’re saying that Kaido’s COC is so weak that would knock out CDs?
 
comrade

comrade

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EmperorKinyagi said:
What nonsense? COC causes AOE after effects that would knock out CDs and without COC Kaido can’t knock out a commander easily.

By your logic I guess that means Kaido has to go “all out” to beat commanders.
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As I pointed out, Kaido's Thunder Bagua didn't knock out the nearby beast pirates, while the CoC outburst of an unconscious Luffy did, even though Kaido's CoC was much stronger at sky splitting level, when Kaido even later pointed out that Luffy's CoC infusion was still "crude" and "clumsy".

Interpret that fact as you wish, but the fact remains that Kaido one shotted Luffy with minimal effort. Unless you want to imply that a one handed base Kaido with a little bit of CoC outburst already comes close to a hybrid Kaido using CoC infusion and higher versions of Thunder Bagua.

What's with that massive cope of yours? The abilities Aramaki used against Karasu in Marijoa are a higher proportion of his full power than Kaido's Thunder Bagua in 923 is in proportion to his fully power, since Aramaki was in fact using a large proportion of his DF power and didn't really make use of his swordsmanship and Haki, which would not have endangered the CD due to the small AoE.
 
L55

L55

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comrade said:
As I pointed out, Kaido's Thunder Bagua didn't knock out the nearby beast pirates, while the CoC outburst of an unconscious Luffy did, even though Kaido's CoC was much stronger at sky splitting level, when Kaido even later pointed out that Luffy's CoC infusion was still "crude" and "clumsy".

Interpret that fact as you wish, but the fact remains that Kaido one shotted Luffy with minimal effort. Unless you want to imply that a one handed base Kaido with a little bit of CoC outburst already comes close to a hybrid Kaido using CoC infusion and higher versions of Thunder Bagua.

What's with that massive cope of yours? The abilities Aramaki used against Karasu in Marijoa are a higher proportion of his full power than Kaido's Thunder Bagua in 923 is in proportion to his fully power, since Aramaki was in fact using a large proportion of his DF power and didn't really make use of his swordsmanship and Haki, which would not have endangered the CD due to the small AoE.
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They brag about "black blade" but it seems he s fodder with it
No fruit=tobi roppo level
 
The Buddha

The Buddha

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This thread comes from the creator that Garp is the original smoker and you know that yonkopers + sword swallowers are like him and even worse Lmao.

Now a brief reminder that Crydo wouldn't be a very tough punching bag if he didn't have a devil fruit.
- He wouldn't have been able to levitate an island.
- He would not have been able to make his last attack.
- etc.

Pig job would have died being thrown out of onigashima if she didn't have a hommie she created with a devil fruit and she wouldn't have been able to turn into an even bigger pig either.

Neckbeard with two op devil fruits can't negged anyone and without fruits he would be a fodder.

The old era loser would have done even less than he did if he hadn't had a devil fruit.

But yonkopers and sword swallowers think they're funny:ohreally:
 
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