Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion

Who's the final villain?


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He beat Queen because the latter was literally standing in one place like a big pile of turd and didn't move or counterattack so Sanji kept repeatedly attacking until he won.
What kind of retarded garbage you are making up?

Queen couldn't get up or do anything so Sanji was just beating him down for angering him


Meanwhile the retard you are defending literally was standing still with his mouth open and turning off all of his defenses:


You can't powerscale shit
 
Blue flames burn hotter than red flames and magma.
Red fire is between 600-800 Celsius
magma is around 1500 celsius
And blue flames are from 2500-3000 Celsius
Kings flame was compared to magma
So ifrit jambe takes the win here
Agreed but there is still the volume at which King produces his flames.
well but i prefer using Portrayal when a character isn't using his full Power , and about Marco and Katakuri ; there is a panel that shows how Marco has a superior portrayal than Katakuri when BM said :
why someone on your caliber is helping these ppl ;

She said this about someone who beat her son in her Island .

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Doesn't really mean much tbh. No matter how strong Kat is he's still her son.

Katakuri has FS , lethality with his spear , his AP is good to bypass Sanji's durability , his speed is good , his defence is good , his aoe attacks are good ; sanji needs to land his attacks so he needs either AOE attacks or bypassing FS with his speed which is never seen ; he is like Speed Mode King and you see how Zoro reacted to his hits let alone a FS user .
Katakuri's FS is countered by Sanji's speed just like Snakeman worked around it. Yes his defence is tough because of shape-shifting but i believe Sanji has the speed to hit him. He can arguably burn down the Mochi with which Kat would try to pin him down as well.

Base Luffy took a dozen of Kat's coa coated punches and kept on, I'd argue Sanji is capable of more than that as well.

Marco really is completely helpless against Sanji tbh
 
Im pretty 2v1ing for multiple chapters and not being able to beat the guy is not having superior portrayal
Apoo did the same with Zoro and Luffy or against Zoro and Drake ; both King and Queen didn't go all out ; King is still looking clean after the battle while Marco is shown beaten LMAO .
also marco
-rh of the stongest pirate crew
-yonko candiate
when kaido was defeated they were done
> King is the RHM of a Kaido with a lower bounty than Primebeard , and that Lunarian's bounty is still superior than Marco .
> and what he did ? he got folded
> King is beating RT Zoro who is folding Marco lol
king beating marco btw (also king fought marco after he flew to wano, fought big mom and was in a 2v1)
Marco was fighting King for a whole hour and he was still folded lol , check when he needed izo to carry him .
 
It's ridiculous that you are all already making matchups for the strawhats (well only Luffy Zoro and Sanji really) against Saturn and Kizaru but forget to take into account that there is a quite a few more characters involved on egghead. What about the seraphim that even the 3 strongest strawhats can't see to be able to defeat ? Lucci and Kaku are here too, allies for now sure but who knows for how long. And most of all there is that BB's ship coming to egghead too.
It won't be as straightforward as Luffy vs Saturn and Zoro/Sanji vs Kizaru. Get the sh past the seraphim first
 
His base ap is trash. He beat Queen because the latter was literally standing in one place like a big pile of turd and didn't move or counterattack so Sanji kept repeatedly attacking until he won.

It's not impressive by any means, it's like beating a glitched boss in mmo rpg game.

For YC1s you need advanced Haki forms. Sanji struggles to combine Ifrit Jambe with regular CoA before he passes out.

Cut the crap.
2 out of 4 yc1 dont have advanced form of haki, u are the one who needs to cut the crap, in cannon manga marco named attack do less damage then IJ to queen, sanji is portrayed and shown a level above marco in speed, which marco already faster then kata himself.
 
Doesn't really mean much tbh. No matter how strong Kat is he's still her son.
she knows better than anyone how strong her son is .
Katakuri's FS is countered by Sanji's speed just like Snakeman worked around it. Yes his defence is tough because of shape-shifting but i believe Sanji has the speed to hit him. He can arguably burn down the Mochi with which Kat would try to pin him down as well.
that's wrong though , not just the speed that played factor in snakeman but also zigzagging moves that played a strong effect which sanji doesn't have , Katakuri didn't find his speed a problem but those zig zagging moves that are hard to react with the speed boosting them ; like the first move is fast and he could react to it , the second one is the same but with the spamming it would be hard something sanji doesn't have .
He can arguably burn down the Mochi with which Kat would try to pin him down as well.

Base Luffy took a dozen of Kat's coa coated punches and kept on, I'd argue Sanji is capable of more than that as well.

Marco really is completely helpless against Sanji tbh
we still don't have that info about sanji's speed bypassing FS , we only giving free passes here
 
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