Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion

Who's the final villain?


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Anyone else getting Florian Triangle shadow vibes? We made the mistake of prematurely assuming they'd appear in Wano due to incomplete spoilers. Hopefully not making that mistake again
 

Seatonnes

waiting for Marvel Rivals
Doesn't change anything
He was played by k n q even without them showing their full abilities and later on king mid diff Marco
marco didnt show his full extend either because he flew to wano lost some stamina

Fought big mom and lost some stamina


then did a 2v1 against commanders and then chose not to use his hot flame on king and queen, while also accomplishing his goal on stalling until sanji and zoro took over aka the new generation
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Like how Apoo wanted to beat Luffy and Zoro or Zoro and Apoo but when he was fighting 1v1 he got folded
dawg you cant deny panels just stop trying
 
marco didnt show his full extend either because he flew to wano lost some stamina

Fought big mom and lost some stamina


then did a 2v1 against commanders and then chose not to use his hot flame on king and queen, while also accomplishing his goal on stalling until sanji and zoro took over aka the new generation
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dawg you cant deny panels just stop trying
Stop twisting things lmao

You said Marco was 100% sure that he would beat k n q
Where's that?
 
Im pretty 2v1ing for multiple chapters and not being able to beat the guy is not having superior portrayal
superior portrayal when it comes to top tier that gb is fight is all that needed
also marco
-rh of the stongest pirate crew
-yonko candiate
when kaido was defeated they were done
- RH of the strongest pirate's crew
Fify. Wb crew was the HARDEST captain-carried crew there is.
- yonko candidate cause they got away quite okay. Ace wasn't part of the crew for the past year or so anyway. So except their captain and some fodders they didn't even lose much. Why shouldn't he be able to keep daddy's business going?

King on the other hand was probably even declared dead after the drone saw him dismembered and thrown off from like 10 km in the air. On top of that, their entire force has been beaten by an alliance that included national forces of wano. So, kaido's dead, headquarters (Wano and onigashima) couped, all outside officers down/dead, military force decimated to pets by a child and everything sealed by the fact that the entire country is affiliating with that guy, now yonko, that crushed the old system. There's nothing left for king to rule, even if he had managed to escape. Which he didn't. Which destroys his chances to rechallenge for his position in future.

CoC Zoro >>> King > RT Zoro > Marco
(three >, cause he needed exactly 3 hits to completely defeat King)
 
she knows better than anyone how strong her son is .
She did not make any direct strength comparison between them though. These are two statements with two different contexts behind them.

that's wrong though , not just the speed that played factor in snakeman but also zigzagging moves that played a strong effect which sanji doesn't have , Katakuri didn't find his speed a problem but those zig zagging moves that are hard to react with the speed boosting them ; like the first move is fast and he could react to it , the second one is the same but with the spamming it would be hard something sanji doesn't have .
Kat will be forced to close combat with Sanji. Even if he dodges the kicks via shape-shifting the heat of the flames arguably still mess with his mochi body. We've seen him create flames of DJ so he probably won't be able to tolerate IJ heat (assuming Mochi is weak to heat which i think it must be given that its food).

we still don't have that info about sanji's speed bypassing FS , we only giving free passes here
True...
 

Seatonnes

waiting for Marvel Rivals
Wb crew was the HARDEST captain-carried crew there is.
debatably one of the least carried crews
Marco stalled 2 commanders aswell as clashing with a 2 yonkos (blackbeard, Big mom) also blocked boro breath, lets not forget him clashing with kizaru effortlessly and fought all admirals

Jozu was destroying aokiji until something distracted him, blocked mihawk and destroying crocodile the plot armor god at Marineford

Ace clashing with aokiji (aokiji had superior df), as well as battling with blackbeard who was debatably YC1 (yami only) which negated aces main way of fighting, dont forget clashing with yamato an acoc user, who was able to clash with kaido, Aces novel

Vista, mihawk considered him a man he needed to know about in the swordsmanship world due to his great strength and prowess

Oden..

Izo, fought both guernica and maha aka apoo and xdrake and ending up dying yet still taking out 1 of them in a 2v1

Rakuyo, no longer in his prime at MF but was still confident to attack kizaru as well as clashing with Roger Pirates Curiel, survived akainus magma and fought moria who is atleast tobiroppo

Curiel, survived akainus magma and fought moria who is atleast tobiroppo

also neko and inu use to be in the crew
:kobeha:
 

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I still think that Queen and King should have exchanged opponnents. It would be good seeing Zoro trying to survive against someone more versatile and Sanji against a swordsmen. Although I don't see how zoro could have survived this attack.
''more versatile'' *proceeds to shoot lasers the entire fight
:suresure:
 
She did not make any direct strength comparison between them though. These are two statements with two different contexts behind them.


Kat will be forced to close combat with Sanji. Even if he dodges the kicks via shape-shifting the heat of the flames arguably still mess with his mochi body. We've seen him create flames of DJ so he probably won't be able to tolerate IJ heat (assuming Mochi is weak to heat which i think it must be given that its food).


True...
Unless you think snakeman is faster then marco who could handle kizaru for a bit then sanji can counter his fs.
 

Seatonnes

waiting for Marvel Rivals
Even Jozu made Aokiji bleed
Marineford is irrelevant

Explai what happened in chapter 1022?
Why Marco was down like that? And why King was running wild?
It was 1 v 1 as Sanji was engaged with Queen
stamina like i already previously explained with flying to wano, fighting bigmom and being in a 2v1

also saying marineford is irrelevant just means you concede
 
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