Questions & Mysteries Could Imu be the Devil? Asmodeus

#62
I mean, isn't Nika technically a devil too if we go by the mechanics of Devil Fruits? I also wonder how Smile Fruits work then. They are artificial fruits that give you those DF powers, yet you are also affected by the sea and Kairoseki. Even the green blood of Seraphim makes them affected by Kairoseki substances. So what, is the green blood some kind of fragment of the devil's soul or the devil itself that was cloned? Seems to me like Devil Fruits just alter the DNA of the user or the body on a molecular level. Would also make you wonder why Haki can interfere with DF powers.

Vegapunk explained that those Devil Fruits are the people's wishes manifested, which is something the sea rejects.
If I wanna make a guess then
Devil fruits being a manifestation of desire, is naturally something you counter with your spirit (haki)
 
#63
Here is more Info guys from another member named Turrin over on NF ( His theory)

With the reveals this chapter I think we can safely guess who IMU is, and the answer is Asmodeus, an ancient Demon who was from the Lesser Key of Solomon, who once stole Solomon’s Kingdom from him, until Solomon eventually reclaimed it by recovering his magic ring and sealing Asmodeus.
—-
Now aside from Sabo describing the throne room as hell and Asmodeus steeling a throne similar to IMU.

Why do I say IMU is definitely inspired by Asmodeus. Well Asmeodeus is described as:

“Asmodeus with the breast of a man, a cock leg, serpent tail, three heads (one of a man spitting fire, one of a sheep, and one of a bull), riding a lion with dragon wings and neck”

Most of these iconography is very visible in the chapter:

Imu who is in the center looks the most Human, just like the center of Asmodeus does. Flames are also shown coming from his mouth with him swallowing them from Sabo:

IM also seems to have a dragon like tail:


The Gorosei also seem to fit Asmodeus’s animal like parts:

1) Saturn and Mustache Gorosei could easily be Bull and Sheep like Monsters

2) Bird Gorosei can easily be the Rooster aspect

3) The empty throne IMU sits on has Snake like Lions, and the final two Gorosei could also have these aspects or other aspects associated with Asmodues (I haven’t researched everything).
—-
Also if we look at IMU’s eyes this chapter they get more rings when he gets mad an swallows Sabo’s fire exactly like the Jinn summoned in WCI arc:

—-
And the lesser Key of Solomon’s symbols is now very clearly to me the symbol on the empty throne and WG insignia:

—-
We also must remember that Alabasta is very Arabian nights symbolic, so the Demon King of Jinn being Lilly’s enemy would fit very well on that level. It also would give us an idea that One Piece could be ether Solomon’s Ring equivalent or the Seal to imprison Imu equivalent.​



Although Turrin seems to believe that the tails are more dragon like he still believes the theme of the devil is present here.

More thoughts are welcome!
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Asmodeus? Is Oda watching too much Paranormal Activity now?
 
#64
My idea on what is the origin of DFs hasn't changed much in a while: DFs didn't exist before Imu appeared.

Imu, an alien/god, granted to his followers (e.g. the Gorosei) DF-like powers in exchange for their loyalty when he reached Earth. The Ancient Kingdom thanks to its extraordinary technological capabilities managed to replicate the abilities of Imu and his demons (hence the name of the fruits) by creating the DFs we know and started fighting against the invaders.

So yes: Imu is the Devil :specialmeh:
Imu is Ghodirah confirmed
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Here is more Info guys from another member named Turrin over on NF ( His theory)

With the reveals this chapter I think we can safely guess who IMU is, and the answer is Asmodeus, an ancient Demon who was from the Lesser Key of Solomon, who once stole Solomon’s Kingdom from him, until Solomon eventually reclaimed it by recovering his magic ring and sealing Asmodeus.
—-
Now aside from Sabo describing the throne room as hell and Asmodeus steeling a throne similar to IMU.

Why do I say IMU is definitely inspired by Asmodeus. Well Asmeodeus is described as:

“Asmodeus with the breast of a man, a cock leg, serpent tail, three heads (one of a man spitting fire, one of a sheep, and one of a bull), riding a lion with dragon wings and neck”

Most of these iconography is very visible in the chapter:

Imu who is in the center looks the most Human, just like the center of Asmodeus does. Flames are also shown coming from his mouth with him swallowing them from Sabo:

IM also seems to have a dragon like tail:


The Gorosei also seem to fit Asmodeus’s animal like parts:

1) Saturn and Mustache Gorosei could easily be Bull and Sheep like Monsters

2) Bird Gorosei can easily be the Rooster aspect

3) The empty throne IMU sits on has Snake like Lions, and the final two Gorosei could also have these aspects or other aspects associated with Asmodues (I haven’t researched everything).
—-
Also if we look at IMU’s eyes this chapter they get more rings when he gets mad an swallows Sabo’s fire exactly like the Jinn summoned in WCI arc:

—-
And the lesser Key of Solomon’s symbols is now very clearly to me the symbol on the empty throne and WG insignia:

—-
We also must remember that Alabasta is very Arabian nights symbolic, so the Demon King of Jinn being Lilly’s enemy would fit very well on that level. It also would give us an idea that One Piece could be ether Solomon’s Ring equivalent or the Seal to imprison Imu equivalent.​



Although Turrin seems to believe that the tails are more dragon like he still believes the theme of the devil is present here.

More thoughts are welcome!
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All we need now is confirmation from Oda on how they actually look.
Imu being a Devil that seduced disgruntled kings/prince's to work under him would be very interesting to see
 
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#65
Just my thoughts after the chapter:


In this chapter we see what I thought first to be arrows hitting Cobra and Sabo:



But on second reading I thought to myself what if those are a tail? More specifically devil tails:



The tail here looks extremely similar to the ''arrows'' we saw in the chapter.

And then you have Sabo saying this:



'' I didnt know that Hell was located here, at the very top of the world'', right after the Gorosei and Imu's transformation. This added with the way Imu seemingly ate Sabo's fire me me pause.

The Gorosei could be devil like creatures and Imu would be the prime evil fruit.

Thoughts?

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Okay, that's actually a good choice, but why pick the name Asmodeus of all demons?
 
#67
Agree, why not just call it Hito Hito no Mi, morel: Akuma?
It called Akuma no Mi in japanese so having a secret Akuma model Zoan would be funny.
It's also the kind of joke Lolda likes.
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Here is more Info guys from another member named Turrin over on NF ( His theory)

With the reveals this chapter I think we can safely guess who IMU is, and the answer is Asmodeus, an ancient Demon who was from the Lesser Key of Solomon, who once stole Solomon’s Kingdom from him, until Solomon eventually reclaimed it by recovering his magic ring and sealing Asmodeus.
—-
Now aside from Sabo describing the throne room as hell and Asmodeus steeling a throne similar to IMU.

Why do I say IMU is definitely inspired by Asmodeus. Well Asmeodeus is described as:

“Asmodeus with the breast of a man, a cock leg, serpent tail, three heads (one of a man spitting fire, one of a sheep, and one of a bull), riding a lion with dragon wings and neck”

Most of these iconography is very visible in the chapter:

Imu who is in the center looks the most Human, just like the center of Asmodeus does. Flames are also shown coming from his mouth with him swallowing them from Sabo:

IM also seems to have a dragon like tail:


The Gorosei also seem to fit Asmodeus’s animal like parts:

1) Saturn and Mustache Gorosei could easily be Bull and Sheep like Monsters

2) Bird Gorosei can easily be the Rooster aspect

3) The empty throne IMU sits on has Snake like Lions, and the final two Gorosei could also have these aspects or other aspects associated with Asmodues (I haven’t researched everything).
—-
Also if we look at IMU’s eyes this chapter they get more rings when he gets mad an swallows Sabo’s fire exactly like the Jinn summoned in WCI arc:

—-
And the lesser Key of Solomon’s symbols is now very clearly to me the symbol on the empty throne and WG insignia:

—-
We also must remember that Alabasta is very Arabian nights symbolic, so the Demon King of Jinn being Lilly’s enemy would fit very well on that level. It also would give us an idea that One Piece could be ether Solomon’s Ring equivalent or the Seal to imprison Imu equivalent.​



Although Turrin seems to believe that the tails are more dragon like he still believes the theme of the devil is present here.

More thoughts are welcome!
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Dragon tails can have similar depictions, but that would just feel like a pointless rehash of Kaido.

The sea devil theme fits better with the overall OP narrative.
Theres a fat chance Imu has the Devil Fruit.
The progenitor of all the other Devil fruits.
Actually, Imu having the form of Asmodeus but being the original Sea Devil might indeed fit the OP narrative as a whole, but that would necessitate explaining how a devil came to the world in OP in the first place and thus opening up the possibility of the OP afterlife.

Unless Lolda wanna go there, I think the explanation that Imu has the progenitor DF is more plausible.
 
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#70
You may be right, the Gorosei at least seem to have Zoan DFs which are most likely mythical or in a special category of their own. As for the power level I don't think they are stronger than Admirals individually, maybe one like the bald Gorosei with the supposed Supreme Grade Kitetsu and with the awakening like silhouette (the bird one also looks like it has the cloud thing).

As for Imu himself, he probably also has a mythical one. The first shape (head) seems like a dragon or a beast with a similar head design and large teeth/fangs (crocodiles and alligators usually have a few teeth that are outside even when mouth is closed). It is also gigantic and the way it moves is somewhat like a crawler on fours. We have not been shown anything beyond the head and shoulders which is probably to hide the wings.
 
#72
Here is more Info guys from another member named Turrin over on NF ( His theory)

With the reveals this chapter I think we can safely guess who IMU is, and the answer is Asmodeus, an ancient Demon who was from the Lesser Key of Solomon, who once stole Solomon’s Kingdom from him, until Solomon eventually reclaimed it by recovering his magic ring and sealing Asmodeus.
—-
Now aside from Sabo describing the throne room as hell and Asmodeus steeling a throne similar to IMU.

Why do I say IMU is definitely inspired by Asmodeus. Well Asmeodeus is described as:

“Asmodeus with the breast of a man, a cock leg, serpent tail, three heads (one of a man spitting fire, one of a sheep, and one of a bull), riding a lion with dragon wings and neck”

Most of these iconography is very visible in the chapter:

Imu who is in the center looks the most Human, just like the center of Asmodeus does. Flames are also shown coming from his mouth with him swallowing them from Sabo:

IM also seems to have a dragon like tail:


The Gorosei also seem to fit Asmodeus’s animal like parts:

1) Saturn and Mustache Gorosei could easily be Bull and Sheep like Monsters

2) Bird Gorosei can easily be the Rooster aspect

3) The empty throne IMU sits on has Snake like Lions, and the final two Gorosei could also have these aspects or other aspects associated with Asmodues (I haven’t researched everything).
—-
Also if we look at IMU’s eyes this chapter they get more rings when he gets mad an swallows Sabo’s fire exactly like the Jinn summoned in WCI arc:

—-
And the lesser Key of Solomon’s symbols is now very clearly to me the symbol on the empty throne and WG insignia:

—-
We also must remember that Alabasta is very Arabian nights symbolic, so the Demon King of Jinn being Lilly’s enemy would fit very well on that level. It also would give us an idea that One Piece could be ether Solomon’s Ring equivalent or the Seal to imprison Imu equivalent.​



Although Turrin seems to believe that the tails are more dragon like he still believes the theme of the devil is present here.

More thoughts are welcome!
@Monkey D Monkey @kenedyfake @Topi Jerami @Sentinel @comrade @Den_Den_Mushi @trav @Demongodzolo @Marimo_420 @Aknolagon @Cyrus the Cactus @Rivaille @Monet @Garp the Fist @Gol D. Roger @Afroking @ImmaIvanoM @MarineHQ @Luffy bin Dragon @Luffy is the mc @Rmstorm @Fleet Leader Fenaker @yj @Fiji @Playa4321 @Guan Yu @Ice devil slayer @Sword God Ryuma @Zenos7 @Akai2 @MasterD @RayanOO @Haoshoku @Dark Hound @Camie @Thabeast @style @zorojurou @RyumaZoro @Gon’s Missing Arm @Yo Tan Wa @Orojackson Refugee @Sunita @IceWitch @ShadyOjiro @LolonoisZolo @Grumpy Zoro @HA001 OF THE RAIN @Natalija @Enma @Rukusho @Sade @Sadistic Senpai @stormylife @Geo @Reborn @Cinera @ShishioIsBack @Shishi @Nidai_Kitetsu @Mikail @mly90 @The White Crane @Gauntlet @Kuro Ashi @sanjikun @Extravlad @Lion of Olympus @Buusatan94 @AL sama @Patryipe @Kiwipom @Owl Ki @Salah WG @stairs-kun @BOCCHI @EtenBoby @Fujishiro @Bogard @Punpun @Seth @Elder Lee Hung @I'mTired @Gensui Sazid @Marco @Erkan12 @Blackbeard @Alpha @matt245 @God D usopp @Shanal @ConquistadoR @Jet Pistol @Captain Luffy @Brendan Schaub @park_min young @Daikenki @WesMidnight @Echizen_Jo_Ndule @serialwinnerv7 @Malick the last Light @yorosenpai @Shinsekai @King of the world @ShadowStyle369 @Daikenki @Seth @LadyVados @BornInAbyss @Fuckthis3 @ShiNoGekai @hayze moya @Meeyori @Franosuke @wys @Lor D. Coast @Kerkovian @wordy @Psychiatrist @kumae @Mr. Reloaded @Taylor_ @ChefboiiFuego @Blazing Lion @grey matter @Owari Da @Malio @OGshine @HAJI @Kurozumi Giggio @Mr.Baj1o @Red Admiral @Mr.9000 @Vanlax @Bt7207. @Croco boy @Herrera95 @JayKitetsu @LilPanda @hedera__helix @Redboy776 @Cruxroux @JoNdule @ConquistadoR @Kurozumi Wiwi @Seth @nik87

Nice theory
 
#76
You still think its a woman?
The image of Imu sitting on the throne with the twin Lion piece on the throne confirmed it for me.
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Look at the imagery. There are more mother goddess figures that have this image of the two lions surrounding her, but considering how hidden island figured out that Rome seems to be the society this storyline is built off of, I decided to go with the Roman version of this entity.
 
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#79
It's 100% a demon tail. First thing I thought of as soon as I saw it. 100% stereotypical looking. It's simply a long-ass tail to be able to come off the angles it came from.

When he pierces Sabo and Cobra you even have Imu's "face" on the same panel.
 
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