Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1086 Spoilers Discussion

[Mlzz]

Mother Flame as Lunarian?

Sun God >>>>> mother’s flame >>> lunarrian >> magma DF

 

[Tejas]

Anyone who questions that Roger and Whitebeard, the men who conquered the Grandline, and the marines who fought them for decades Garp and Sengoku, are in any way shape or form weaker than the Holy Knights or Gorosei or AdmiraLs should request a ban, reread the manga then come back to reality.

Fixed

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So Sabo killing a fodder would make the title valid for you?

I’m saying that the “portrayal” that people are giving Sabo is nothing more than literal propaganda.

If Sabo did anything in the reverie the title would be valid but he actually did nothing except burn the food storage container

 

[mmd]

Sun God >>>>> mother’s flame >>> lunarrian >> magma DF

At least say Akainu

 

[kumae]

Wait why no zoro in colorspreed 😢

 

[mmd]

I’m saying that the “portrayal” that people are giving Sabo is nothing more than literal propaganda.

If Sabo did anything in the reverie the title would be valid but he actually did nothing except burn the food storage container

You yourself say that the image that people gave him, like Kaido, could not prove himself

 

[Valcrein]

Saint Figarland Garling is an old king who had an important role in the God Valley incident, he's the leader of the holy knights.

Nice so it wasn't only marine and the roger pirates :cheers: rocks pirates >> Roger's overrated crew

Known info:
- Rocks attacks tenryubito at god valley
- Figarland Garling is the leader of holy knights, which is main defender of tenryubito
- Roger found shanks at god valley incident (most likely after the war)
- Shanks most likely are related to figarland

Speculations:
- Most likely Rock's crew defeated the holy knights (maybe hard to extreme diff).. And tenryubito & figarland family are panicly retreating (this can explain why baby shanks there)
- Marines (and Roger's) probably join the battle mid fight, and defeated the remaining of Rocks.
- Figarland family most likely are 1 of the core military power of first 20 kingdoms.. because shanks was born with natural haoshoku, so his family/clan probably also very prominent with haoshoku.

So.... maybe we should not expect those holy knight's power are too far above current power level.. admiral level at most (since they are defeated by rock's crew)

 

[Boiroy]

You should be banned for this shit

Pls don't say that Or he'll shoot me 😳

 

[mmd]

Wait why no zoro in colorspreed 😢

pink haired girl>>>your Zori

 

[HellBlazer04]

Nah but he was still part of it.
What those three did was nothing short of spectacular giving the circumstances and where they were.

But my point here is not about those two

Morley and Karasu were the ones who did the heavy lifting and its understandable why because they have more experience.

Sabo's "flame emperor" tile is literally a false propaganda no matter how much credit you wanna give him for just surviving Imu because Cobra saved him.

This doesn't mean he is not strong, just that his false title doesn't make him a top tier like some people suggested.

 

[kumae]

Nami: zoro if you defeat warrior of financee I will be your wife
Sanjino:
@kumae

Swordsman and warrior of financee
Zona still winning

 

[Soyz]

Holy Knights > Admirals is dead btw.

Garling was in God Valley yet we already know that GARP was framed as the hero by the WG and that according to Sengoku the real story is that it was Garp and Roger who were the MVPs.

Garp is 100% > Garling

I think garp is stronger then garling but this is not a good argument, holy knights seem to operate in secret and he very well could've done something significant that he just didnt get the credit for.

 

[Welkin]

Wait why no zoro in colorspreed 😢

Well at least it wasn’t just him

Oda left out Winbei too

 

[Levi]

Wait why no zoro in colorspreed 😢

He be no homo jumbo no gay to

 

[Strawhats Bible]

I’m saying that the “portrayal” that people are giving Sabo is nothing more than literal propaganda.

If Sabo did anything in the reverie the title would be valid but he actually did nothing except burn the food storage container

Oh but he did something there didn't he?
Don't know why you guys are just denying him this lol

When was it stated that there ever was someone to go in marigeoise start war, attack the Gorosei, see the ruler of the world and get back to safety and relay the information to WG's current number 1 enemy?


Just because Wapol was used as gag the same way Buggy was during the Impel Down escape you can't just deny that lol

 

[kumae]

pink haired girl>>>your Zori

Who's that

 

[Strawhats Bible]

Morley and Karasu were the ones who did the heavy lifting and its understandable why because they have more experience.

Sabo's "flame emperor" tile is literally a false propaganda no matter how much credit you wanna give him for just surviving Imu because Cobra saved him.

This doesn't mean he is not strong, just that his false title doesn't make him a top tier like some people suggested.

His title is linked to going to the Reverie and killing a King with no power. Pretty sure what actually happened would still give him this title, since "killing" a fodder already gave him.

 

[Jackteo]

Swordsman and warrior of financee
Zona still winning

Agriculture >> Finance

 

[mmd]

Who's that

I call him that because I hate Kobe

 

[Extravlad]

I think garp is stronger then garling but this is not a good argument, holy knights seem to operate in secret and he very well could've done something significant that he just didnt get the credit for.

Secret what lmfao? Man was the RULER of God Valley back then.