The thing is all celestial dragons are consider Gods only difference is the Gorosei know how to fight and are warriors. So the God part in there titles i wont take as serious as literal gods until i see feats that make him above WSS nd also the title ”God of finance” aint a good start. We will have to wait for Saturn’s feats in egghead if he fights to better power scale the 5 elders.
General & Others Why does anybody think Zoro will fight Mihawk after Nasujuro?
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The answer is simple, it is because of Black Blade and Yoru.
As a Zoro fan, I'd rather have Mihawk with Kokuto Yoru as the final swordsman for Zoro to overcome. A hardworking human like him who dedicated his life to the way of the sword. Not some DF-Man Accountant who happens to wield a sword and be called swordsman by Oda.
God of Finance my ass.
But hey, a 2-page spread with Luffy and Zoro having their title boxes Pirate King and World's Strongest Swordsman before the final war starts ain't bad.
Tbh though, I don't really care whether Mihawk is the last fight or not. I just hope Oda makes the Zoro vs Mihawk 2 duel not a half-assed work and give what it deserves. Not rushed with good fight choreography.
As a Zoro fan, I'd rather have Mihawk with Kokuto Yoru as the final swordsman for Zoro to overcome. A hardworking human like him who dedicated his life to the way of the sword. Not some DF-Man Accountant who happens to wield a sword and be called swordsman by Oda.
God of Finance my ass.
But hey, a 2-page spread with Luffy and Zoro having their title boxes Pirate King and World's Strongest Swordsman before the final war starts ain't bad.
Tbh though, I don't really care whether Mihawk is the last fight or not. I just hope Oda makes the Zoro vs Mihawk 2 duel not a half-assed work and give what it deserves. Not rushed with good fight choreography.
Here is the thing
They can't side with WG - they are issuing bounties on marines. Nor negotiating with them. If oda had intention to have them ally with WG then removing warlord system was unnecessary.
Second, they can ally with SHs. But I have two problems with this....
Except for Mihawk there is no top tier in it. They will fill only numbers.
Even if they ally with SHs then once WG is defeated, zoro vs mihawk would be more like side quest because Luffy would be sitting already on top.
Therefore, there are only two scenarios left
A) Not just cross guild but other yonkous ally with SHs as well to take down WG and then fight each other. But this goes against the plot
Or B) all onkous plot gets resolved before WG fall.
Luffy beats BB and zoro beats Shiryu and Mihawk and both becomes PK and WSS before taking on WG
They can't side with WG - they are issuing bounties on marines. Nor negotiating with them. If oda had intention to have them ally with WG then removing warlord system was unnecessary.
Second, they can ally with SHs. But I have two problems with this....
Except for Mihawk there is no top tier in it. They will fill only numbers.
Even if they ally with SHs then once WG is defeated, zoro vs mihawk would be more like side quest because Luffy would be sitting already on top.
Therefore, there are only two scenarios left
A) Not just cross guild but other yonkous ally with SHs as well to take down WG and then fight each other. But this goes against the plot
Or B) all onkous plot gets resolved before WG fall.
Luffy beats BB and zoro beats Shiryu and Mihawk and both becomes PK and WSS before taking on WG
I like to think of myself as a Zoro fan. I agree with Zoro fans on most things. But there is this one thing I just can't find myself seeing eye to eye with a lot of them. That's this obsession with Mihawk being Zoro's EoS opponent.
Bros, Mihawk is a member of Cross Guild. He is part of a yonko crew. Luffy needs to defeat the yonko before he becomes PK and fights the WG.
That includes Cross Guild.
Oda didn't need to put Buggy into the race for Pirate King. For most of the story, he was only focused on Captain John's treasure. Oda could have just let Buggy focus on that while Luffy, Teach, and Shanks focused on Pirate King. But the fact the Buggy is in the race is unquestionably a set up for Zoro vs Mihawk.
Chronologically speaking, Zoro needs to beat Mihawk before he fights Nasujuro. And that's okay. I've noticed Zoro fans have a nasty habit of downplaying future Zoro opponents. Y'all did this very same thing with King during the rooftop, with Zoro fans claiming that rooftop Zoro would low diff King without a power up. And look what happened.
Ultimately, Nasujuro being above Mihawk doesn't downplay Mihawk or Zoro in any way, so Zoro fans need to stop being so insistent in this nonsense chronology. Mihawk is the World's strongest swordsman, Nasujuro is a god. A god being above a swordsman is only natural. It only serves to hype up Zoro when he tears Nasujuro from his throne. Mihawk still has better portrayal than Shanks, Fujitora, and any other swordsman in One Piece. The man just isn't a warrior god, and that's fine. But there's no need to lose braincells over this.
Luffy will become PK by defeating Teach, and then go on to defeat Imu in the final war.
Zoro will become WSSM by defeating Mihawk, and then go on to defeat Nasujuro in the final war.
Seriously, this isn't that big of a deal
Bros, Mihawk is a member of Cross Guild. He is part of a yonko crew. Luffy needs to defeat the yonko before he becomes PK and fights the WG.
That includes Cross Guild.
Oda didn't need to put Buggy into the race for Pirate King. For most of the story, he was only focused on Captain John's treasure. Oda could have just let Buggy focus on that while Luffy, Teach, and Shanks focused on Pirate King. But the fact the Buggy is in the race is unquestionably a set up for Zoro vs Mihawk.
Chronologically speaking, Zoro needs to beat Mihawk before he fights Nasujuro. And that's okay. I've noticed Zoro fans have a nasty habit of downplaying future Zoro opponents. Y'all did this very same thing with King during the rooftop, with Zoro fans claiming that rooftop Zoro would low diff King without a power up. And look what happened.
Ultimately, Nasujuro being above Mihawk doesn't downplay Mihawk or Zoro in any way, so Zoro fans need to stop being so insistent in this nonsense chronology. Mihawk is the World's strongest swordsman, Nasujuro is a god. A god being above a swordsman is only natural. It only serves to hype up Zoro when he tears Nasujuro from his throne. Mihawk still has better portrayal than Shanks, Fujitora, and any other swordsman in One Piece. The man just isn't a warrior god, and that's fine. But there's no need to lose braincells over this.
Luffy will become PK by defeating Teach, and then go on to defeat Imu in the final war.
Zoro will become WSSM by defeating Mihawk, and then go on to defeat Nasujuro in the final war.
Seriously, this isn't that big of a deal
That is his personal dream true, but ever since he joined Luffy he was bound to be something far greater than that
Mihawk's fight will be the highlight of his life, and definitely the fight that Oda will flesh out the most. Powerscaling aside, as Oda will handle it one way or another, there's just now way Zoro is having an epilogue fight with Mihawk
-Luffy and Zoro should achieve their dreams within a short period of time
-Zoro's duel with Mihawk has been one of the most anticipated fights since the beginning of the manga. If it takes place after the final raid all the heat would be lost. Wouldn't be as exciting because the tension from the manga as a whole is relieved
-Just as Luffy will get proper screentime as pirateking, Zoro should have the same treatment as WSS
-Mihawk joining Cross Guild, then Buggy doing that speech is Oda's way of making Mihawk and Zoro happen before Mariejois
Then we have this panel
So yeah, Gandhi could be weaker or stronger who knows, but Zoro is gonna be the WSS before the last arc
I like to think of myself as a Zoro fan. I agree with Zoro fans on most things. But there is this one thing I just can't find myself seeing eye to eye with a lot of them. That's this obsession with Mihawk being Zoro's EoS opponent.
Bros, Mihawk is a member of Cross Guild. He is part of a yonko crew. Luffy needs to defeat the yonko before he becomes PK and fights the WG.
That includes Cross Guild.
Oda didn't need to put Buggy into the race for Pirate King. For most of the story, he was only focused on Captain John's treasure. Oda could have just let Buggy focus on that while Luffy, Teach, and Shanks focused on Pirate King. But the fact the Buggy is in the race is unquestionably a set up for Zoro vs Mihawk.
Chronologically speaking, Zoro needs to beat Mihawk before he fights Nasujuro. And that's okay. I've noticed Zoro fans have a nasty habit of downplaying future Zoro opponents. Y'all did this very same thing with King during the rooftop, with Zoro fans claiming that rooftop Zoro would low diff King without a power up. And look what happened.
Ultimately, Nasujuro being above Mihawk doesn't downplay Mihawk or Zoro in any way, so Zoro fans need to stop being so insistent in this nonsense chronology. Mihawk is the World's strongest swordsman, Nasujuro is a god. A god being above a swordsman is only natural. It only serves to hype up Zoro when he tears Nasujuro from his throne. Mihawk still has better portrayal than Shanks, Fujitora, and any other swordsman in One Piece. The man just isn't a warrior god, and that's fine. But there's no need to lose braincells over this.
Luffy will become PK by defeating Teach, and then go on to defeat Imu in the final war.
Zoro will become WSSM by defeating Mihawk, and then go on to defeat Nasujuro in the final war.
Seriously, this isn't that big of a deal
Bros, Mihawk is a member of Cross Guild. He is part of a yonko crew. Luffy needs to defeat the yonko before he becomes PK and fights the WG.
That includes Cross Guild.
Oda didn't need to put Buggy into the race for Pirate King. For most of the story, he was only focused on Captain John's treasure. Oda could have just let Buggy focus on that while Luffy, Teach, and Shanks focused on Pirate King. But the fact the Buggy is in the race is unquestionably a set up for Zoro vs Mihawk.
Chronologically speaking, Zoro needs to beat Mihawk before he fights Nasujuro. And that's okay. I've noticed Zoro fans have a nasty habit of downplaying future Zoro opponents. Y'all did this very same thing with King during the rooftop, with Zoro fans claiming that rooftop Zoro would low diff King without a power up. And look what happened.
Ultimately, Nasujuro being above Mihawk doesn't downplay Mihawk or Zoro in any way, so Zoro fans need to stop being so insistent in this nonsense chronology. Mihawk is the World's strongest swordsman, Nasujuro is a god. A god being above a swordsman is only natural. It only serves to hype up Zoro when he tears Nasujuro from his throne. Mihawk still has better portrayal than Shanks, Fujitora, and any other swordsman in One Piece. The man just isn't a warrior god, and that's fine. But there's no need to lose braincells over this.
Luffy will become PK by defeating Teach, and then go on to defeat Imu in the final war.
Zoro will become WSSM by defeating Mihawk, and then go on to defeat Nasujuro in the final war.
Seriously, this isn't that big of a deal
-Mihawk : i want to be alone and live peacefully
-Crocodile : I want to create a utopia. I want a strong military strength for that, which is why I want Pluton
-Mihawk : we lack strength to do so
-Imu: if you help me fight the Strawhats and the world, I can give you “mother flame” and assure you total immunity and peace.
-Mihawk: …
-Imu: i mean it is exactly for this same reason why you accept to be a Shishibukai. You work with us to have peace
In this scenario where is the character assassination?
How strong one have to be “to be ready for the gorosei”?
-Crocodile : I want to create a utopia. I want a strong military strength for that, which is why I want Pluton
-Mihawk : we lack strength to do so
-Imu: if you help me fight the Strawhats and the world, I can give you “mother flame” and assure you total immunity and peace.
-Mihawk: …
-Imu: i mean it is exactly for this same reason why you accept to be a Shishibukai. You work with us to have peace
In this scenario where is the character assassination?
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How strong one have to be “to be ready for the gorosei”?
Meme or not, people are vastly underestimating cross guild.
Buggy is the ultimate rival of luffy the closest thing luffy has ever had to a whitebeard. The two have grown in infamy at the same rate and have even become emperors together. Luffy by defeating two top tiers and buggy by joining with two top tiers.
People discount cross guild way too quickly. These three and Utopia have every opportunity to be the final villain of one piece. Definitely would be better than random geezers
Buggy is the ultimate rival of luffy the closest thing luffy has ever had to a whitebeard. The two have grown in infamy at the same rate and have even become emperors together. Luffy by defeating two top tiers and buggy by joining with two top tiers.
People discount cross guild way too quickly. These three and Utopia have every opportunity to be the final villain of one piece. Definitely would be better than random geezers
While i don't believe zoro will fight Mihawk, i find it quite logical for us (zoro fans) to see Mihawk as the final boss.
He is the strongest swordsman and has the strongest sword in the world.
"Surpass this sword - surpass me Roronoa Zoro"
And pretty much that is all.
All those "new" super strong looking swordsmen doesn't have any of the two.
In my opinion someone could dethrone Mihawk but that someone should be a really special guy with a black blade as well. If you don't see a black blade you shouldn't think of that said person to be stronger than Mihawk imo
He is the strongest swordsman and has the strongest sword in the world.
"Surpass this sword - surpass me Roronoa Zoro"
And pretty much that is all.
All those "new" super strong looking swordsmen doesn't have any of the two.
In my opinion someone could dethrone Mihawk but that someone should be a really special guy with a black blade as well. If you don't see a black blade you shouldn't think of that said person to be stronger than Mihawk imo
The war with the revs is already causing the world government to mobilize their forces. Straw hats are about to take down an admiral and a gorosei
Cross Guild turned the world against the marines.
Issho caused the destruction of the warlord system which greatly weakened the world government, especially if the seraphim get taken down.
The WG since the last reverie has lost a huge amount of military might. And the lack of food supply is going to make them desperate. If Croc gets pluton, the world government is getting destroyed and replaced by utopia.
Cross Guild turned the world against the marines.
Issho caused the destruction of the warlord system which greatly weakened the world government, especially if the seraphim get taken down.
The WG since the last reverie has lost a huge amount of military might. And the lack of food supply is going to make them desperate. If Croc gets pluton, the world government is getting destroyed and replaced by utopia.