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Fair enough, I did revise my tier list to place him in "high top tier-" after your post. Bogard's inflexibility in debates loses him points IMO. I've never seen him really change his mind on any of the issues he has strong opinions about.
Just me really, I love stuff like this.
I agree, but whether I posted it in public or not, the fact is that I would still do this in private anyways. I find stuff like this fun, and it helps me decide whose posts are worth engaging with.
Just me really, I love stuff like this.
I agree, but whether I posted it in public or not, the fact is that I would still do this in private anyways. I find stuff like this fun, and it helps me decide whose posts are worth engaging with.
@Cinera
The user @Cao Cao is easily on @Sentinel lvl.
I remember a discussion between these both where both quote each other 150 with a wall of text in the past
Dude that was crazy, they discussion about one thing for months
Overall CaoCao=Sentinel=Me , we are the monster-trio from our german forum and take on manyforums.
:cheers:
The user @Cao Cao is easily on @Sentinel lvl.
I remember a discussion between these both where both quote each other 150 with a wall of text in the past
Dude that was crazy, they discussion about one thing for months
Overall CaoCao=Sentinel=Me , we are the monster-trio from our german forum and take on manyforums.
:cheers:
As the only one who actually gives a shit about powerscaling powerscalers, I'm obviously God Tier.
It is, I'm just autistic like that. You guys love me anyway though. 💋
I'm aware, but merely a step above Cracker is not enough. It demonstrates the exact inflexibility I bemoan. Even when he does budge, it's only slightly.
Hmm, there are a few reasons:
The above opinions aren't about powerscaling in particular, they are my opinions on debates in general. I take discourse very seriously, and have exacting standards of my partners. I simply apply my standards for debates in general to powerscaling in particular.
It is, I'm just autistic like that. You guys love me anyway though. 💋
I'm aware, but merely a step above Cracker is not enough. It demonstrates the exact inflexibility I bemoan. Even when he does budge, it's only slightly.
Hmm, there are a few reasons:
- On priors it's very unlikely that someone would be correct on all their powerscaling opinions.
- For example many of the people who currently believe Admirals ~ Yonkou previously thought the Yonkou were a level above.
- If you cannot change your mind, then discussion with you is pointless. It's fine not to change your mind if you don't see sufficiently convincing arguments to do so, but if there's nothing in principle that could convince you to change your mind on a topic, then there's no point having a debate with you.
- The purpose of a debate is for the parties to through discourse converge on the correct opinions. Ability to change your mind is necessary for that.
- Often times, in debates I would lay out what exactly my partners would need to do to convince me of the alternate position, or alternatively what exactly I would need to see to be convinced of the alternate position.
- I can be convinced that Mihawk is not a top tier for example. If some of the following happened I would revise down my estimate of Mihawk:
- His bounty was revealed and it was below Weevil's or any other former Shichibukai.
- His bounty was revealed and it was below 1.5 billion.
- He was defeated by the Marine force that came to capture him and there was no admiral on board.
- He lost to an Admiral and was unable to push them to solid high difficulty.
- Zoro's final battle on Wano is against a low high tier character and they push him to at least high difficulty.
- Mihawk reveals that he was trying his hardest to beat Vista.
- Mihawk reveals that his WB slash was his strongest attack.
- Mihawk being a top tier is my strongest held opinion of all the powerscaling takes that are contended, and I can in principle change my mind on it. If there was nothing that would make me believe that Mihawk wasn't a top tier, then debating Mihawk's power level status with me would be pointless.
- I can be convinced that Mihawk is not a top tier for example. If some of the following happened I would revise down my estimate of Mihawk:
The above opinions aren't about powerscaling in particular, they are my opinions on debates in general. I take discourse very seriously, and have exacting standards of my partners. I simply apply my standards for debates in general to powerscaling in particular.
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And this is not exactly a place where someone can PROVE you wrong, unless if the manga shows it in the future (like you said "reveals" a few times). If Mihawk reveals, then Oda proved you wrong, not your debater.
Even back on OJ I took debates very seriously and was planning on writing a mega essay on how to debate properly before getting banned. I was an edgy teenager back then. I'm older and (a little bit) wiser (also much more depressed and less optimistic about the future), and my opinions on the importance of (and how to conduct) debates have only gotten stronger. Perhaps one of these days I would write out my accumulated wisdom. That would be a full fledged dissertation though, and by far my longest work yet.
