General & Others World vs heaven

[Albino 👑]

How would you feel if there were titles above worlds strongest?
Like if there was was a heavens/gods strongest man, creature, swordsman

That way when luffy becomes the pirate king and is considered the world's strongest man imu can have an even better title. Imu being the king of the world and the heavens strongest man/creature. If imu really does end up being the final bad he was probably stronger than while when he had the title at least

With zoro needing to beat mihawk and become the world's strongest swordsmen in order to help luffy become pirate king its likely gonna happen before the world government fight. So if zoro does end up fighting another swordsman in the final war assuming its not another king situation they can be considered heavens strongest swordsmen

 

[Moegara]

There's no better title than "World's Strongest". It's not "Humanity's Strongest Swordsman".

 

[gz89]

There's no better title than "World's Strongest". It's not "Humanity's Strongest Swordsman".

I wouldnt be surprised if Oda will come up with some retarded statement like "Yeah Gorosei are aliens so WSS is referred only to humans"

 

[Albino 👑]

There's no better title than "World's Strongest". It's not "Humanity's Strongest Swordsman".

Imu is going to be stronger than wsm whitebeard and possibly even wsm pirate king luffy. Itd be fitting if he had a even better title
There being an unknown man stronger than whitebeard or luffy doesn't make them look bad. Same way there being an unknown stronger swordmen than mihawk or zoro did make them look bad

 

[Moegara]

Imu is going to be stronger than wsm whitebeard and possibly even wsm pirate king luffy. Itd be fitting if he had a even better title
There being an unknown man stronger than whitebeard or luffy doesn't make them look bad. Same way there being an unknown stronger swordmen than mihawk or zoro did make them look bad

That's a different argument from the title argument. Following the interpretation you suggest, "Heaven's Strongest" wouldn't even contend with "World's Strongest", since it's a different realm, so it wouldn't even imply it's a better/stronger title.

Regardless, using a brain functioning brain, one can underestand that they're all just humans (or whatever the term would be to include fishmen, giants, lunarians, etc), and whoever is the strongest in the world, is stronger than the rest of them.

Thus, the "Heaven's Strongest" or whatever similar title, and I feel bad for using this word, is retarded with both interpretations.


Now, on the other argument: can there still be a secret, unknown character that's even stronger? Yes. Do I have a reason to believe it does? No, definitely not, and it would once again defeat Mihawk's character whole purpose of serving as the physical manifestation of Zoro's goal. He exists solely so we know when Zoro is or is not the strongest. If Zoro is still not the strongest after beating him, everything about Zoro becomes fraudulent, and he'll forever be stained by the mark of "there's stronger people out there".

I wouldnt be surprised if Oda will come up with some retarded statement like "Yeah Gorosei are aliens so WSS is referred only to humans"

Poor Mihawk is only Earth's Strongest Swordsman but turns out Gandhi is the Solar System's Strongest Swordsman.

 

[Albino 👑]

That's a different argument from the title argument. Following the interpretation you suggest, "Heaven's Strongest" wouldn't even contend with "World's Strongest", since it's a different realm, so it wouldn't even imply it's a better/stronger title.

Regardless, using a brain functioning brain, one can underestand that they're all just humans (or whatever the term would be to include fishmen, giants, lunarians, etc), and whoever is the strongest in the world, is stronger than the rest of them.

Thus, the "Heaven's Strongest" or whatever similar title, and I feel bad for using this word, is retarded with both interpretations.


Now, on the other argument: can there still be a secret, unknown character that's even stronger? Yes. Do I have a reason to believe it does? No, definitely not, and it would once again defeat Mihawk's character whole purpose of serving as the physical manifestation of Zoro's goal. He exists solely so we know when Zoro is or is not the strongest. If Zoro is still not the strongest after beating him, everything about Zoro becomes fraudulent, and he'll forever be stained by the mark of "there's stronger people out there".


Poor Mihawk is only Earth's Strongest Swordsman but turns out Gandhi is the Solar System's Strongest Swordsman.

Imu and his men consider themselves on a higher plain/level then normal people. So if there does end up being a heavens strongest they should be stronger

Also it wouldn't really make sense for heavens/gods strongest man to be stronger than whitebeard or luffy but the swordsmen equivalent weaker than mihawk or zoro

In order to get the one piece and become the pirate king luffy is going to need to beat the other emperors. At the very least theyre gonna need to be taken out somehow in order for luffy to win. With them all out of the picture luffy at that point is straight up the strongest not including imu's potential strength

In order for luffy to become pirate king zoro is going to need to beat mihawk. Mihawk is part of a emperor crew thats going after the one piece. Like its pretty obvious zoro needs to become the wss to help luffy become pirate king.

 

[uyuu]

How would you feel if there were titles above worlds strongest?
Like if there was was a heavens/gods strongest man, creature, swordsman

That way when luffy becomes the pirate king and is considered the world's strongest man imu can have an even better title. Imu being the king of the world and the heavens strongest man/creature. If imu really does end up being the final bad he was probably stronger than while when he had the title at least

With zoro needing to beat mihawk and become the world's strongest swordsmen in order to help luffy become pirate king its likely gonna happen before the world government fight. So if zoro does end up fighting another swordsman in the final war assuming its not another king situation they can be considered heavens strongest swordsmen

No world strongest title can even come close to anything like Heavenly Destroyer, King of The Gods Imu.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

World's Strongest God.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Divine demon

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

That's a different argument from the title argument. Following the interpretation you suggest, "Heaven's Strongest" wouldn't even contend with "World's Strongest", since it's a different realm, so it wouldn't even imply it's a better/stronger title.

Regardless, using a brain functioning brain, one can underestand that they're all just humans (or whatever the term would be to include fishmen, giants, lunarians, etc), and whoever is the strongest in the world, is stronger than the rest of them.

Thus, the "Heaven's Strongest" or whatever similar title, and I feel bad for using this word, is retarded with both interpretations.


Now, on the other argument: can there still be a secret, unknown character that's even stronger? Yes. Do I have a reason to believe it does? No, definitely not, and it would once again defeat Mihawk's character whole purpose of serving as the physical manifestation of Zoro's goal. He exists solely so we know when Zoro is or is not the strongest. If Zoro is still not the strongest after beating him, everything about Zoro becomes fraudulent, and he'll forever be stained by the mark of "there's stronger people out there".


Poor Mihawk is only Earth's Strongest Swordsman but turns out Gandhi is the Solar System's Strongest Swordsman.

This is stupid honestly. The title will be meaningless only if Mihawk is the only one involved. If there are no challengers after Zoro takes the title it won't have any significance. No one wins a title belt and then retires, it makes you look like a coward who ducks challengers.

 

[zenox]

Another cope thread for mihawk’s title

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Better question is, why does it matter

 

[Albino 👑]

Better question is, why does it matter

Because imu should be stronger than whitebeard and kaido + zoro's final opponent should be stronger than mihawk

Luffy and zoro are likely going into the final battle as pirate king and wss

 

[HellBlazer04]

Because imu should be stronger than whitebeard and kaido + zoro's final opponent should be stronger than mihawk

Luffy and zoro are likely going into the final battle as pirate king and wss

Why does zoro's last opponent need to be stronger than Mihawk or a better question why should it not be mihawk?

I need a genuine answer for this because all ive seen since break started is people making up headcanon with 0 logic. Just to satisfy their agenda

 

[Albino 👑]

Why does zoro's last opponent need to be stronger than Mihawk or a better question why should it not be mihawk?

I need a genuine answer for this because all ive seen since break started is people making up headcanon with 0 logic. Just to satisfy their agenda

Zoro's final fight of the entire series should be the toughest whether they're a swordsman or not

Mihawk isn't leaving cross guild to join the world government again just to fight zoro. All the while everyone else is fighting characters relevant under imu and the world government

1. Cross guild is going after the one piece (Mihawk is a part of cross guild)
   • Cross guild will need to fight other emperor if they want to stand a chance
     • Zoro just so happens to be part of an emperor crew as well
   • The strawhats will win the race meaning the other emperors and their crews will lose
     • Zoro needs to beat mihawk for luffy to be pirate king. Same way mihawk would need to beat zoro for buggy to be pirate king
2. The world government is endgame
   • Mihawk leaving cross guild and joins the world government again after already being kicked out is slightly unlikely to say the least
3. Mihawk already admitted becoming pirate king is a greater and tougher ache than beating him
   • Zoro himself also puts luffy becoming pirate king as something more important than him being wss
     • Was willing to give up his life and dream in thriller bark for luffy
     • Gave up his pride and asked mihawk to train him in order to help luffy because pirates king
     • All of onigashima
4. Luffy already said the pirate king having anything less than the wss would make him look bad
   • The current wss already is seen as a subordinate to an emperor
   • Pirate king luffy and wss zoro will walk into the final war
5. Mihawk and zoro are too close. Again zoro lived and trained with him for 2 years. Mihawk isn't really final antagonist material and i doubt he's gonna be revealed to be secretly evil
6. Zoro and mihawk staight up aren't relevant enough to be the final battle of the series after luffy takes down imu

 

[сука]

"PLEASE LET MIHAWK BE A FRAUD OR I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF!"

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[HellBlazer04]

Zoro's final fight of the entire series should be the toughest whether they're a swordsman or not

Mihawk isn't leaving cross guild to join the world government again just to fight zoro. All the while everyone else is fighting characters relevant under imu and the world government

Why would mihawk need to join WG to fight Zoro?

You people need to understand that the Final War and Raftel will not be seperate things. Oda has literally said that the moment One Piece is found the story is over.

Its exactly why oda stated that its going to be free for all, and we can see it being implemented with the current chapters. Its the reason why we are seeing now gorosei and Imu getting into action because off the stuff that were supposed to be hidden/secret are getting revealed to us(as well as in-verse)

Every major faction will be involved in the final war whether it be Revs, Yonko, Marines, WG, SH GF and allied countries. And the conclusion of it all will be the One Piece treasure which wraps up the story.

 

[Albino 👑]

"PLEASE LET MIHAWK BE A FRAUD OR I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF!"

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Someone being stronger than wss mihawk or even zoro doesn't make them a fraud when their strength was unknown

Someone being stronger than wsm whitebeard or potential blackbeard or even pirate king luffy doesn't make them frauds
Same thing when it comes to wsc kaido

Imu being the strongest and having people under him with unknown strength doesn't make any of them look bad

Why would mihawk need to join WG to fight Zoro?

You people need to understand that the Final War and Raftel will not be seperate things. Oda has literally said that the moment One Piece is found the story is over.

Its exactly why oda stated that its going to be free for all, and we can see it being implemented with the current chapters. Its the reason why we are seeing now gorosei and Imu getting into action because off the stuff that were supposed to be hidden/secret are getting revealed to us(as well as in-verse)

Every major faction will be involved in the final war whether it be Revs, Yonko, Marines, WG, SH GF and allied countries. And the conclusion of it all will be the One Piece treasure which wraps up the story.

He isn't fighting mihawk someone not part of the wg while luffy and the rest fight imu and his subordinates...

That was never said so.
The world government isnt going down before luffy becomes pirate king, finds the one piece, and then decides what hes gonna do with the information given to him. Just like rayleigh implied and whitebeard just straight up said

 

[сука]

Someone being stronger than wss mihawk or even zoro doesn't make them a fraud when their strength was unknown

Someone living in this world and being stronger than the WSS does make the WSS look bad, which is exactly what you want

 

[Albino 👑]

Someone living in this world and being stronger than the WSS does make the WSS look bad, which is exactly what you want

No it doesn't because the same applies to wsm and wsc and it wouldn't make them look bad either

Wss zoro should fight someone stronger than mihawk
Wsm and pirate king luffy should fight someone stronger than prime whitebeard, blackbeard, or shanks