Theory Sukuna theories

[Light D Lamperouge]

(Day 69 praying for Sukuna to not be able to copy other CTs)

Why for you?


I wouldn't personally like it cuz it'd be a copy, no pun, of Yuta lol.


But you can't deny the similarities between Yuta and Rika the Queen of Curses and Sukuna the King of Curses. Sukuna being a fully realized Yuta isn't out of the realm of possibilities ngl. Especially since Yuta was the og MC.

 

[matt245]

Why for you?


I wouldn't personally like it cuz it'd be a copy, no pun, of Yuta lol.


But you can't deny the similarities between Yuta and Rika the Queen of Curses and Sukuna the King of Curses. Sukuna being a fully realized Yuta isn't out of the realm of possibilities ngl. Especially since Yuta was the og MC.

Mostly because I find it as a cheap way of making someone strong without having to think about it. Wanna make X character strong and dangerous? Allow him to copy other character's powers and call it a day. I'd much rather an unorthodox power (like the Kitchen CT) or something more simple but decent (like your theory of 4 weapons = 4 abilities) paired up with good stats.

I honestly "kinda" have a counter towards the theory of him being able to copy CTs

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Mostly because I find it as a cheap way of making someone strong without having to think about it. Wanna make X character strong and dangerous? Allow him to copy other character's powers and call it a day. I'd much rather an unorthodox power (like the Kitchen CT) or something more simple but decent (like your theory of 4 weapons = 4 abilities) paired up with good stats.

Yeah I can see that perspective. And since it is a big mystery copy would be kind of a letdown after all this time ngl.

I honestly "kinda" have a counter towards the theory of him being able to copy CTs

Go on.

 

[matt245]

Yeah I can see that perspective. And since it is a big mystery copy would be kind of a letdown after all this time ngl.

Agreed. It'd be way too underwhelming.

Go on.

I mean, if he could copy CT, why didn't he just copy Megumi's 10 shadows and call it a day? It would've been easier (probably) than the complicated plan lf taking over Megumi that might still give him problems with the later preventing him from fighting to his fullest strength. Just copy, kill Megumi and call it a day lol.

Same thing could be said about other CTs. Why didn't he copy Mahito's CT which is extremely haxs? Gojo's which is also very broken... And the list goes on and on

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

I mean, if he could copy CT, why didn't he just copy Megumi's 10 shadows and call it a day? It would've been easier (probably) than the complicated plan lf taking over Megumi that might still give him problems with the later preventing him from fighting to his fullest strength. Just copy, kill Megumi and call it a day lol

Yeah I figured you were gonna go down that route, and it could make sense, but then we have to factor in the fact that not just everyone could house Sukuna.
As Sukuna puts it Megumi had the ct potential and the tolerance to do it

Spoiler

Him copying Megumi's CT would be to no avail if he was forced to reside in Yuji because Yuji can suppress him completely.

 

[matt245]

Yeah I figured you were gonna go down that route, and it could make sense, but then we have to factor in the fact that not just everyone could house Sukuna.
As Sukuna puts it Megumi had the ct potential and the tolerance to do it

Spoiler

Him copying Megumi's CT would be to no avail if he was forced to reside in Yuji because Yuji can suppress him completely.

Depends on how he copies the CT. If it's being able to use the CT of the body that he's in then it's completely fine. My point still stands (mostly the second part( if he's able to copy other Techniques without having to live in the body. And regarding the cage, fair point.

If he can only copy the CT of those who are his vessels then my point falls. If he can copy CT thru other means then only half of my points fall

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Depends on how he copies the CT. If it's being able to use the CT of the body that he's in then it's completely fine. My point still stands (mostly the second part( if he's able to copy other Techniques without having to live in the body. And regarding the cage, fair point.

If he can only copy the CT of those who are his vessels then my point falls. If he can copy CT thru other means then only half of my points fall

I think you misunderstood me lol.

I am not saying he can only copy those techs that his vessels have.

I am saying that if Sukuna were to remain in Yuji then copying Megumi's technique or any other technique for that matter would be sorta frivolous because Yuji can suppress Sukuna, i.e. he'd never really get to use it/them.

 

[matt245]

I think you misunderstood me lol.

I am not saying he can only copy those techs that his vessels have.

I am saying that if Sukuna were to remain in Yuji then copying Megumi's technique or any other technique for that matter would be sorta frivolous because Yuji can suppress Sukuna, i.e. he'd never really get to use it/them.

He does have the "agreement" with Yuji that allows him for free control. And well, Shibuya happened while he was still inside Yuji...

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

He does have the "agreement" with Yuji that allows him for free control.

That was enchain that lasted for a minute and Sukuna vowed not to hurt anyone.

And well, Shibuya happened while he was still inside Yuji...

Yeah but that was when Yuji was fed 10 fingers at once and on the brink of death

Spoiler

Otherwise it would never have happened.

 

[matt245]

That was enchain that lasted for a minute and Sukuna vowed not to hurt anyone.



Yeah but that was when Yuji was fed 10 fingers at once and on the brink of death

Spoiler

Otherwise it would never have happened.

Yeah fair enough, I'll take the L here.

I should definitely re-read JJK

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Sukuna is most likely going to have a soul related power.

Been foreshadowed since the Mahito arc imo.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Wanna throw another theory out there.


Yuji is Sukuna's twin. That is Yuji is made up of the remnants of Sukuna's twin. Or the other half of Sukuna.


Through Mai and Maki Zenin we see how CT/CE/Jujutsu treats identical twins. And I do not think this was a plot just for the two of them but rather for the wider scope of the series.

Yuji and Sukuna no matter how you look at it look quite similar.


Sukuna comments on Yuji being from that time

Spoiler

Yuji's physicals are on a level of their own. Kinda like the Heavenly restricted people.


Why does Sukuna think Kenjaku does the grossest things?

Spoiler

Cuz Kenjaku used the remnants of Sukuna's own twin to create a vessel that can suppress Sukuna.

Why can Yuji do it?
Why does Yuji have no CT?
Why do Yuji and Sukuna look so much alike?
Why did Sukuna call Yuji a guy from that time?
Why is that gross to Sukuna?

Cuz Yuji is his twin, in essence.


Sukuna - Mai in this context, aka got the cursed technique
Yuji - Maki in this context, aka got the heavenly physicals


Upon Sukuna assimilating and most likely consuming his twin, he evolved to the levels he is now, just like when Maki lost Mai she evolved further.





Some perhaps interested parties.

@notAfanboy @ConquistadoR @NikaInParis @MonochromeYoru @Marimo_420 @L55 etc etc
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I thought Sukuna said that about Kenny because he literally gave birth to Yuji?

Changing your gender and having a baby for the sole purpose of being Sukuna's vessal is pretty messed up and gross imo.

Kenny most likely did bioengineer Yuji to be a capable vessel for sukuna. That's why they look alike.


I don't think the Mai Maki comparison works.
Cause Yuji is implied to have developed a CT in recent chapters. A soul transfer one. It's not similar to Sukuna's CT as far as we know. Nothing to do with cooking or kitchen.

But, it is similar to someone else's. Kenny's that is. Kenny can transfer his Brain into people and take over them. Maybe an advanced version of that is directly soul transfer without the brain limitation.


Don't know about the "that time" Line tho.

Also, where did this twin things come from? Is it just from the similarity to mai maki or did I miss some exposition in the manga?

Also also, wouldn't Sukuna consuming his twin erase his body? So Kenny wouldn't have access to it either way.




Sukuna is the greatest because he's him. Not cause of some twin bullshit

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

I thought Sukuna said that about Kenny because he literally gave birth to Yuji?

I don't think Sukuna knows that, does he? Even if he does, the lines come one after another so it's clearly connected to that part imo.

And those two pages are one after the other
Page 10 and 11.

Kenny most likely did bioengineer Yuji to be a capable vessel for sukuna. That's why they look alike.

Don't think them looking alike is just cuz of that ngl.

I don't think the Mai Maki comparison works.
Cause Yuji is implied to have developed a CT in recent chapters. A soul transfer one.

That's from Yuki's research on souls

Spoiler

Don't know about the "that time" Line tho.

It's definitely a hint.

Also, where did this twin things come from? Is it just from the similarity to mai maki or did I miss some exposition in the manga?

The fact that Ryomen Sukuna in myths is said to be like that

I wanted to elaborate a bit on it and see if we can tie it up. Searching for stuff online led me to some posts and this book that is apparently used by Gege to model Sukuna on. And in there there was an excerpt about Sukuna and his origin.

It basically went like this

Sukuna used to have a twin. Siamese twin to be precise. But he ate him.

A Siamese twin was born to a poor family, who later sold them to a freak show. One day, a cult leader named Mononobe Tengoku purchased several malformed humans, including the Siamese twins from the freak show. Mononobe was fascinated by the twins and kept them in a room without food or water until one of the twins killed and ate the other. Mononobe then attached the arms of the deceased twin to the surviving twin and half of their face. The resulting creature was named Ryomen Sukuna.

He has two faces and 4 arms.

Even the name Ryomen isn't really a name but means Doublefaced/Twofaced

Also also, wouldn't Sukuna consuming his twin erase his body?

Not all of it. Kenny wouldn't require the entire body. Just some leftover here and there or smth.

Sukuna is the greatest because he's him. Not cause of some twin bullshit

Get ready to chant Fraudmen Fraudkuna soon

 

[MonochromeYoru]

I don't think Sukuna knows that, does he?

And those two pages are one after the other
Page 10 and 11.


Don't think them looking alike is just cuz of that ngl.


That's from Yuki's research on souls

Spoiler

It's definitely a hint.



The fact that Ryomen Sukuna in myths is said to be like that


He has two faces and 4 arms.

Even the name Ryomen isn't really a name but means Doublefaced/Twofaced



Not all of it. Kenny wouldn't require the entire body. Just some leftover here and there or smth.



Get ready to chant Fraudmen Fraudkuna soon

The fights ending soon right? Serious question.
Do you believe Gojo survives this in anyway shape or form?

Get ready to change your user name to
Satoru Gojo(rip) soon

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

The fights ending soon right? Serious question.
Do you believe Gojo survives this in anyway shape or form?

Get ready to change your user name to
Satoru Gojo(rip) soon

Probably not for a few more chapters. Can I see Gojo surviving? Yes absolutely. I can see them killing each other. If Gojo loses cleanly he lost cleanly. But if Sukuna pulls out 10 s or Yorozu's gift or doesn't manage to win at all. Damn. I wouldn't wanna be in your guys shoes at all. It's gonna be a bloodbath. Everyone is already basically expecting Gojo to lose so it's not really a biggie especially since Sukuna has been amped up to incredible heights. But if Sukuna doesn't manage to win or has to rely on something of the above. It's over. There is really no coming back from that especially for the fan base that claimed 15 finger Shibuya Sukuna already negs Gojo.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Probably not for a few more chapters. Can I see Gojo surviving? Yes absolutely. I can see them killing each other. If Gojo loses cleanly he lost cleanly. But if Sukuna pulls out 10 s or Yorozu's gift or doesn't manage to win at all. Damn. I wouldn't wanna be in your guys shoes at all. It's gonna be a bloodbath. Everyone is already basically expecting Gojo to lose so it's not really a biggie especially since Sukuna has been amped up to incredible heights. But if Sukuna doesn't manage to win or has to rely on something of the above. It's over. There is really no coming back from that especially for the fan base that claimed 15 finger Shibuya Sukuna already negs Gojo.

You know what I hear? A whole lotta crying and excuses



Gojo is being pushed hard to the point he has to use never before seen shit like RCT healing CT. Meanwhile, this is Gojo's second significant hit on Sukuna and he's smiling after taking it.


I would be really really really really surprised if Sukuna used anything other than his own CT CE and techniques against Gojo.

If he was going to, the start of the fight was literally the best time to use Mahoraga wheels. If he had used that, Gojo would be dead by now lol.

Sukuna is a very prideful guy. He will beat Gojo with his own power.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

You know what I hear? A whole lotta crying and excuses

Where have I done that lmao?

Do people not expect Gojo to lose?
Have people not said 15 finger Sukuna is stronger than Gojo?
Has Sukuna not been amped?

These are all straight facts.

Gojo is being pushed hard to the point he has to use never before seen shit like RCT healing CT. Meanwhile, this is Gojo's second significant hit on Sukuna and he's smiling after taking it.

I mean br0 walked out of the domain with no CT and smiled and blitzed the guy with the domain who was further boosted by the domain gaining a buff in stats.

I would be really really really really surprised if Sukuna used anything other than his own CT CE and techniques against Gojo.

If he was going to, the start of the fight was literally the best time to use Mahoraga wheels. If he had used that, Gojo would be dead by now lol.

Sukuna is a very prideful guy. He will beat Gojo with his own power.

Aye bet, and if he does use it what will you say then? Serious question btw. And these two. What will you do if Gojo and Sukuna tie? Or Gojo wins?



EDIT: Basically what I am saying is that betting on Gojo is a longer shot, but a way way more lucrative W. Meanwhile betting on Sukuna is more likely a safer bet, but with a chance of a never before seen L.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Where have I done that lmao?

Do people not expect Gojo to lose?
Have people not said 15 finger Sukuna is stronger than Gojo?
Has Sukuna not been amped?

These are all straight facts.


I mean br0 walked out of the domain with no CT and smiled and blitzed the guy with the domain who was further boosted by the domain gaining a buff in stats.


Aye bet, and if he does use it what will you say then? Serious question btw. And these two. What will you do if Gojo and Sukuna tie? Or Gojo wins?

If Sukuna were planning on using 10 shadows the wheel would already be out.

Which means that he doesn’t think he needs it.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Where have I done that lmao?

Do people not expect Gojo to lose?
Have people not said 15 finger Sukuna is stronger than Gojo?
Has Sukuna not been amped?

These are all straight facts.

You just wrote out excuses for Gojo's ultimate loss lol.

Saying everyone expects gojo to lose and it's no biggie cause sukuna has been amped are all excuses. That's you trying to soften the upcoming blow.

Also that was a joke.

Where is the sukuna amp? He's just using cqc and his own CT and CE. Until he uses 10s or Yorozu gift, he's not amped. Gojo on the other hand was lol.

I mean br0 walked out of the domain with no CT and smiled and blitzed the guy with the domain who was further boosted by the domain gaining a buff in stats.

It took Gojo significant effort to land a simple Red lol. And he didn't blitz either. Sukuna was playing with him. And all that effort amounted to a wound that Sukuna can easily heal from, and a smile.

Sukuna domain gains range. I don't think it's said that it increases power?

Aye bet, and if he does use it what will you say then? Serious question btw. And these two. What will you do if Gojo and Sukuna tie? Or Gojo wins?

What do you want me to do lol.

I don't see Gojo winning. And I dont see 10s usage in this 1v1 against Gojo.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

You just wrote out excuses for Gojo's ultimate loss lol.

I mean those are all factual lol, so no excuses.

Saying everyone expects gojo to lose and it's no biggie cause sukuna has been amped are all excuses. That's you trying to soften the upcoming blow.

I mean it's all true tho lol.

Also that was a joke.

Alright.

Where is the sukuna amp?

The 10s and Yorozu gift, provided he uses them.

Until he uses 10s or Yorozu gift

Aye I said that.

Gojo on the other hand was lol.

Correct for one attack as it is temporary.

It took Gojo significant effort to land a simple Red lol

He walked out of the domain lmao. What more do you want?

And he didn't blitz either.

My man put the agenda aside for once.

Sukuna gets surprised by Gojo's speed and proceeds to get his face blasted but he didn't get blitzed lmao

Spoiler

This is clearly a blitz lol. No way anyone is gonna argue otherwise in good faith. If you are then it's better to just stop here right away cuz it would be frivolous when you are clearly just downplaying whatever Gojo does and uplaying whatever Sukuna does.

Sukuna was playing with him.

See. This is why I can't take you guys seriously lmao. I swear Gojo could win, the manga would end, and you Sukuna br0s would be still saying Sukuna was playing. Like I think it's clear I am tryna have a serious conversation, so no need for bland trolling and agenda.

And all that effort amounted to a wound that Sukuna can easily heal from, and a smile.

I mean if we count smiles lol, Gojo smiled after taking all of Sukuna's domain and healed. Soooo.

Sukuna domain gains range. I don't think it's said that it increases power?

All domains give a boost in stats after being successfully opened and cast

Spoiler

Read Sukuna br0s read!

What do you want me to do lol.

I don't see Gojo winning. And I dont see 10s usage in this 1v1 against Gojo.

I am just asking you br0. What happens if Sukuna loses/ties or needs 10s and Yorozu's gift??