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How many Dorikis had Kaku after he ate his df?


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#41
Yes i agree in his hybrid form his power was great but so was the other zoan users, my point is in their base Lucci and Jabra were already boosted because they had zoan powers, with Lucci's power allowing him to become 2 times stronger than Jabra when they were close in power before, so for Kaku's base to also exponentially improve i doubt it would have given he had just eaten that zoan just before he fought Zoro.

But since he was given 2 years with the power and has trained it, its no wonder current Kaku and Lucci are now comparable and given that Kaku is a prodigy he was able to awaken his power in a short amount of time, he should currently be as strong if not stronger than Lucci.
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just eating a zoan boosts your physical stats, thats why the 2200 is questionable since Kaku eat a zoan after, the thing is everyone think Kaku somehow grew exponentially from it and i highly doubt it since Lucci said you need to train and the zoan power will boost your strength after and since Kaku didnt train his doriki should have increased a little if at all
Jabra outright said zoan fruits don’t affect doriki. Kakus doriki didn’t change at all
 
#43
Jabra outright said zoan fruits don’t affect doriki. Kakus doriki didn’t change at all
did you even read what i said?

Lucci already told you that just eating a zoan will boost your physical stats, and if you train after that you strength will increase without limit.
So Kaku who just eat a zoan should have already received a physical boost, and over the 2 years he trained his ability allowing him to be comparable to Lucci.
 
#44
Yes, Sanji will kick harder than Zoro. If Sanji can't even kick harder than Zoro, when Zoro don't even use his legs in combat for offensive purposes (swords all involve hands only), then Sanji is complete fodder to Zoro.

The point simply is that if Kaku can punch a bit harder than Jyabura, the difference will be quite significant when swordsmanship is involved.
2200 vs 2180 doesn't say the whole story like you guys wish it did.

Look at the aftermath of Kaku fight, vs Jyabura. Kaku ended up destroying that massive tower.
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Then why did Oda specifically mention that doriki isn't the entire thing in actual battle?
Your entire "narrative purpose" argument goes right out of the window when Oda himself outright acknowledged (through Jyabura) that it's just physical power and nothing more.
It's narrative purpose was to hype up Lucci, yes. That was the main point, to establish Lucci as the legendary CP9 member

If Oda wanted to convey that Zoro is closer to Sanji than Luffy as you guys want, then why does Oda portray Zoro with Luffy just as much as he does with Sanji, if not more times? Why did Oda have Luffy and Zoro essentially tie in Wiskey peak?
Clearly Oda wants the portrayal to go both ways would be the unbiased conclusion, Zoro gets portrayed with Luffy and Sanji. But you guys won't acknowledge the former cause agendas.
Swordsmanship only increases AP. I doubt it makes Kaku physically stronger.
 
#47
did you even read what i said?

Lucci already told you that just eating a zoan will boost your physical stats, and if you train after that you strength will increase without limit.
So Kaku who just eat a zoan should have already received a physical boost, and over the 2 years he trained his ability allowing him to be comparable to Lucci.
Because if you strengthen your base it’ll increase the power of your devil fruit, however, the opposite is not the case. We’re told this outright
 
#48
Because if you strengthen your base it’ll increase the power of your devil fruit, however, the opposite is not the case. We’re told this outright
you are being ignorant on purpose i take it.

where were you told these lies and by whom?

Lucci outright told you eating a zoan boosts your physical stats and training with it will increase your strength without limit, now tell me who said the opposite of this?
 
#51
you are being ignorant on purpose i take it.

where were you told these lies and by whom?

Lucci outright told you eating a zoan boosts your physical stats and training with it will increase your strength without limit, now tell me who said the opposite of this?
Lucci: The more you train the more your power is amplified.

He’s referring to the boost you get going into your hybrid form.

Jabra: Doriki only measures physical ability, in an actual fight I will have my devil fruit ability.

Jabra stating doriki foesnt account for devil fruits.

You’re just wrong
 
#53
Right.
So you hit harder with a sword than without. Meaning, 2200 isn't a representative of Kaku's actual level.

Doriki is better at assessing the attack power of a martial artist than a swordsman for this exact reason.
Curious but have you don’t martial arts? Strength training is not a major component in them, most of it is about technique. Doriki just measured physical capabilities, not how strong of a punch you can throw.

It’s like saying someone can kick harder than Bruce Lee because they can squat more.
 
#54
Right.
So you hit harder with a sword than without. Meaning, 2200 isn't a representative of Kaku's actual level.

Doriki is better at assessing the attack power of a martial artist than a swordsman for this exact reason.
Swordsmanship doesn't increase physical stats. That's like saying Zoro got physical boost after getting new swords.

By your logic, Jabra's Doriki should be higher than 2180 since Doriki doesn't count Kenpo Style of Jabra as it doesn't count Kaku's swordsmanship.

And nothing said that Doriki assessing martial art better than swordsmanship. All Cipher Pol are martial artists.
 
#55
Lucci: The more you train the more your power is amplified.

He’s referring to the boost you get going into your hybrid form.

Jabra: Doriki only measures physical ability, in an actual fight I will have my devil fruit ability.

Jabra stating doriki foesnt account for devil fruits.

You’re just wrong
no he is not stop this bullshit logic.

he is talking about the benefits of zoan abilities over logias and paramecia, he is not talking about hybrids

yes doriki only measures physical stas when did i ever say it doesnt?

yes doriki doesnt account for zoan transformations

my guys, take a breath and a moment to read and understand what Lucci said before you keep talking more bullshit:

Lucci says that just eating a zoan will boost your physical abilities, and the more you train then you can grow your strength without limit!

this all means after Kaku eat his zoan his physical abilities became boosted, and during the 2 years he trained hard enough to boost his strength to the point he is now comparable to Lucci
 
#56
no he is not stop this bullshit logic.

he is talking about the benefits of zoan abilities over logias and paramecia, he is not talking about hybrids

yes doriki only measures physical stas when did i ever say it doesnt?

yes doriki doesnt account for zoan transformations

my guys, take a breath and a moment to read and understand what Lucci said before you keep talking more bullshit:

Lucci says that just eating a zoan will boost your physical abilities, and the more you train then you can grow your strength without limit!

this all means after Kaku eat his zoan his physical abilities became boosted, and during the 2 years he trained hard enough to boost his strength to the point he is now comparable to Lucci
Show me the quote you’re talking about?

He literally says exactly what I said, your power gets amplified by a zoan ability. It doesn’t make you stronger straight up, just that the zoan power amplifies CP9s strength. And the power of zoans is the power to transform.
 
#57
Show me the quote you’re talking about?

He literally says exactly what I said, your power gets amplified by a zoan ability. It doesn’t make you stronger straight up, just that the zoan power amplifies CP9s strength.
where Lucci explains how zoan powers work!

- Yes eating a zoan will boost your physical strength
- i never said it makes you exponentially stronger
- yes kaku eating a zoan increased his physical strength but not by a noticeable amount since he needed to train first to get the boost, just like what Lucci said
 
#58
where Lucci explains how zoan powers work!

- Yes eating a zoan will boost your physical strength
- i never said it makes you exponentially stronger
- yes kaku eating a zoan increase his physical strength but not by a noticeable amount since he needed to train first to get the boost, just like what Lucci said
Show the quote dude cause lucci said exactly what I said.
 
#59
Swordsmanship doesn't increase physical stats. That's like saying Zoro got physical boost after getting new swords.

By your logic, Jabra's Doriki should be higher than 2180 since Doriki doesn't count Kenpo Style of Jabra as it doesn't count Kaku's swordsmanship.

And nothing said that Doriki assessing martial art better than swordsmanship. All Cipher Pol are martial artists.
Dude, WTF are you even saying??
Quit arguing against a strawman. Who TF said swordsmanship increase physicals stats? I said swordsmanship increases attack power :pepebuggy:


Doriki = how hard you hit physically.
It is a representative of attack power if what you do is punch and kick. For a martial artist like Lucci or Jyabura, is a pretty good estimate of attack power

Point is simply that if you want to extrapolate attack power from doriki, it kinda fits for a martial artist, but not for a swordsman because the actual attack power of a swordsman is simply higher than how hard he can punch.
 
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