1. 0 evidence that he gets clapped worse than smoker ever would especially when smoker lost to someone weaker than boa and shiryu (vergo).
2. He can't do anything to kuzan. Now maybe his awakening (smoker) allows him to be the perfect smoke bomb and that way he could escape or help the others escape. So there is some usefulness there. But a full flegde fight? He needs to bring tsru and sengoku with him
I gave you plenty for Smoker coming to save the marines with Luffy.
Coby never battled Boa or Shiryu so don't try make it out like Coby battled stronger people than Smoker in fights using that logic I could say Pre TS Smoker battled Boa at Marineford.
Law is stronger than Shiryu and Smoker battled him.
Let's be real there's nothing stopping Oda from giving Smoker a power creep. He did it with Luffy against Kaido. Sanji with Queen. If the story calls for it Oda will make any character as strong as he needs them to be.
You can't deny it doesn't make sense for Smoker to come to Beehive considering the connections with Kuzan and Tashigi being captured right.
Danzo, Hiruzen and Sasuke’s dad failed. It is implied several times in the story that the Uchiha massacre could’ve been avoided. Difference is Hiruzen clearly regrets it while Danzo and his fans revel in it
Implied how, all negotiations failed. Did Itachi even regret this ever..
Hiruzen is a gentle man in a wicked world, his actions were not really the wisest throughout his rule
Fact is, an Uchiha rebellion would've lead to the decimation of the entire Shinobi world.
He will. Smoker's role I think is to assist law. I personally believe that Smoker is the sengoku of this generation so he has ro have a major role in the story
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You mean the same way you gents stated that the moment you saw tashigi on an island next to egghead that Smoker's moment was going to be on egghead??????
The only way to stop the massacre is for Minato or any other Hokage to have been present. It’s clear Hiruzen couldn’t prevent it and was even holding out for discussions until the last minute.
Whatever solution there was for the would be coup, it was so far back that none of the key participants in the massacre had any chance at resolving it peacefully
Again, difference is Danzo and his fanboys revel in genocide. One can admit they committed a lesser evil to save a country but these dudes outright sounding like nazis 💀
Do you know how dishonest you have to be to use this level of reasoning? It's actually insane. No evidence that Coby battled two BB commanders yet you use it as fact. He didn't fight Boa at all at best dodged a stray attack which Boa fired and then was saved from her by BB.
Using your level of reasoning I could say. Smoker battled 2 3 Billion pirates beat one of them twice. Clashed with Boa Pre TS at Marineford etc.
If you were actually honest you'd just admit like Smoker at that time in the same circumstances Coby would have got clapped by Doflamingo
Again, difference is Danzo and his fanboys revel in genocide. One can admit they committed a lesser evil to save a country but these dudes outright sounding like nazis 💀
I gave you plenty for Smoker coming to save the marines with Luffy.
Coby never battled Boa or Shiryu so don't try make it out like Coby battled stronger people than Smoker in fights using that logic I could say Pre TS Smoker battled Boa at Marineford.
Law is stronger than Shiryu and Smoker battled him.
Let's be real there's nothing stopping Oda from giving Smoker a power creep. He did it with Luffy against Kaido. Sanji with Queen. If the story calls for it Oda will make any character as strong as he needs them to be.
You can't deny it doesn't make sense for Smoker to come to Beehive considering the connections with Kuzan and Tashigi being captured right.
1. 0 evidence that that version of law was stronger than shiryu especially when that version of law was still much weaker than doffy. Current law is leagues above. So that's cap.
2. Battling ans getting clapped are two different things. There was no battle with smoker and boa pretimeskip nor smoker and doffy post timeskip. He simply got clapped.
3. Koby on the other hand was the last man standing, getting props from yonko, having boas sisters wary of him calling koby conceited, having boas slave arrows fail agaisnt him even though it worked on a yonkos commanders. Is the youngest marine to have so much authority that even though he is apart of sword the word government still allowed him at his age to have a seraphim chip
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