Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1087 Spoilers Discussion

[centurion]

Waiting for the raws to see Garp get washed by BB pirates


Waiting for the raws to see the Capybara that Oda drew in the cover

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

where's your tag
are you still an admin ?

I accidentally deleted my tag and only bogard can add it back
and I'm too ashamed to bring it up to bogard

 

[ZenZu]

I disagree with this.

Zoro can already be stronger than shiryu but he will still struggle against Shiryu, because Shiryu is willing to do whatever necessary to win the fight be it taking a hostage or sneak attacks. This will definitely make it so the fight is hard for Zoro because he doest fight with the same cunning mentality, but it doesn't mean that Shiryu is impressive. It means that if shiryu fights someone with the same cunning mentality as him, he would get bodied instantly. Also another thing, sanji only detected absalom by thowing salt around him.

Struggling with Shiryu =/= getting his ass whooped. When I quoted @Gol D. Roger this was the premise. We're at a point of the story where Zoro is not only insanely powerful but incredibly balanced.

You don't whoop someone's ass on that level with a gimmick alone. If Zoro only struggles and even more so because of some underhanded stuff, then it's a different conversation.

The best way for him to grow stronger, is by fighting extremely strong top tiers. Luffy did the same so why can't i expect the same for Zoro?

Do we really want Zoro's battles to have as many asspulls as Luffy's, even the convenient advCoC awakening and retarded unexplained King flame on/off gimmick was bad enough.

Though I do agree it would need to happen sooner than later. I just can't visualize how Shiryu vs Zoro, and BB vs Luffy can lineup if BB is supposed to be this >> Prime WB level threat.

Let the same fight play out for a bit longer and Zoro would win, even without CoC.

Maybe, but my point was there's no way any reasonable person would say Zoro was an entire level above King. They're comparable as a whole pre KoH.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Hopefully Shiryu doesn't fall easily once Zoro powers up

Tbh nothing tells me that Shiryu won't fall.

I think only Mihawk (another CoC User) will truly put up a fight against Zoro like that.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Kuzan is the world's strongest boxer

Nah, maybe the world's strongest one legged man.

 

[JoyBoyRoy]

i'm late to the party here due to work but it seems like a lot of the characters mentioned here have daddy issues (kuzan, grus) and crave some sort of recognition from garp, whereas garp seems to feel more for his students that don't follow his dreams for them (dragon, luffy). am i overanalysing also is this final confirmation we needed that dragon is garp's son?

 

[matt245]

What a sad moment in Naruto's serialization, up there with Jiraiya's death

Sad moment? Dunno about you but I'm still smoking their packs.

 

[Albino 👑]

Nothing is stopping shiryu from being a comparable swordsman to zoro

Shiryu is definitely pushing zoro to king of hell mode if not asura. That’s on top of zoro gaining a observation power up

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yea, Kaku was the one dude who was overwhelming Zoro & 9 Sword Style was needed to win.

Daz Bones, Ohm, Braham, Pica, King were all handled within seconds once their Game is exposed.

tired of gimmick fights tbh
perhaps after him he can fight someone who can truly go toe to toe with
zombie ryuuma like kaku comes to mind.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Nah, maybe the world's strongest one legged man.

None of the yonko are boxers.
Kuzan and Akainu are the world's strongest boxers

 

[Fuckthis3]

Post the pics @MonsterZoro

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

DFless Blackbeard vs DFless Admirals threads will be interesting after this chapter drops

 

[PeronaNerona]

What a sad moment in Naruto's serialization, up there with Jiraiya's death

To be fair, Guy almost killed Madara while he was empowered by 10 tails shenanigans, Kisame has no business doing shit to him.

Madara without any external powers would get clapped by Guy even without using 8 gates. Kisame never had a chance.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Shiryu is very likely inferior to Zoro in CoO, CoA, CoC, Swordsmanship, physical stats and a whole lot more but will push Zoro on the backfoot purely due to his inability to counter Shiryu's DF.

If Shiryu is inferior to Zoro in all those stats, he wont be Zoro's next opponent. If you think, ZorovsShiryu will be a CoO training fight, you are mistaken.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Struggling with Shiryu =/= getting his ass whooped. When I quoted @Gol D. Roger this was the premise. We're at a point of the story where Zoro is not only insanely powerful but incredibly balanced.

You don't whoop someone's ass on that level with a gimmick alone. If Zoro only struggles and even more so because of some underhanded stuff, then it's a different conversation.

@Bold: Doesn't this explain it already?

The one part of the skill tree that Zoro has left unexplored is what will be tested to the utmost vs Shiryu & without being able to sense him (to land attacks, to block, counter or parry) his mastery over the other two facets are almost useless here.

Hence why i'm still sticking to the Matchup issue argument.

 

[Pot Goblin]

Are we actually getting pics tonight?

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

None of the yonko are boxers.
Kuzan and Akainu are the world's strongest boxers

in terms of power
luffy is probably superior

 

[Shiroyru]

CG Bounties isn't based on how old or prime you are lol

Garp is retired. Obviously a retired Marines is inherently less of a threat or less influential than an active Admiral or Fleet Admiral.

 

[MonsterZoro]

raws

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

To be fair, Guy almost killed Madara while he was empowered by 10 tails shenanigans, Kisame has no business doing shit to him.

Madara without any external powers would get clapped by Guy even without using 8 gates. Kisame never had a chance.

That only makes it sadder. Kisame was fighting a losing battle and refused to give in.

Inspirational.