Does Coby have COC?


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You realize that they have been fighting for hours before that, right?
And? Ace and Jumbo fought for hours. Does that make them top tier? Just means that they were of similar strength is all.

Oda had already shown acoc in the oden flashback before. Do he had no reason for not showing kaido using it. He could have silhouetted kaido using his forms and stuff too.

But oda chose the weakest form for oden to get a hit in. That's the facts.
This is the same man who took a fucking named attack from the Pirate King as a Rookie & walked it off.
A watered down version of it one-shot Law's equal btw.
Sure. Roger, who wanted to meet the samurai, and probably/definitely wanted to recruit him, used a full power attack. Lol

I don't care about Kid. Law wouldn't have gotten one shot like that.

And there's no indication of shanks' kamusari being weaker than Roger's lol.


Sure, Kaidou wasn't the "Strongest" back then and he gained strength.

Doesn't change the fact that he was a Top Tier even back then. By the time he fought Oden, he had almost ~20 years with his fruit and already was a Rocks pirate before that.
The amount of time with fruit means Jack shit lol. Like, Kaku awakened his after 2 years. Kaido and meme didn't even after 40+ years?

Kaido being top tier in the flash back is very debatable.
Bounty = Achievements.
That was a Rookie Shanks, he had just started out as a Pirate and was gaining fame.
Bounty is also used bt oda to indicate power level lol. Like, there's no way you can deny that.

And besides, you're arguing rookie shanks that just started out is already a top tier... Just think about that for a second. Does that seem right to you?

Do you think chapter 1 shanks that lost his arm is a yonko teir character just bumming out in the east blue?


Like Ace f.ex., when he died he just had 500 million - does that mean he's comparable to Who's Who lmao?
Ace squashes bums like Who's Who as a Rookie, let alone as a Division Commander.
Ace is a victim of the series power creep and the length of op lol. He had the highest known bounty at the time of his death. If he had been alive rn, you bet bis bounty would be accurate to his strength.

Still doesn't change his Powerlevel, Whitebeard isn't going to take note of people on the level of King/Queen fighting. Let alone calling said duels "Legends".
WB absolutely would lol. Fights between yonko/admiral tier characters don't happen very often at all. And shanks was a member of Roger pirates. So of course WB would revere it in high regard.

YC are regarded highly by yonko themselves. With Shanks asking Marco to join him, BM asking King to join her, Kaido saying Jack was strong after getting blitzed by Sulong inu and meko etc...


They see YC as strong and capable fighters. Not this low level scrubs you try to paint them as being seen.
 

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The Rogue Prince
Sengoku believed Ace will lead the New Era of Pirates.
Whitebeard believed Ace is the successor to Roger's throne.
Shanks believed Ace was strong.
Blackbeard & his crew hype Ace.
After seeing Onigashima Luffy fight and clashing with him - Yamato tells him that he reminds her of Ace.
Jinbe admits in the Ace Novels that he surpassed him, meaning bare minimum Ace was on the level of Sanji.

Ace very, very clearly wasn't weak lol. Had he survived the war & unlocked his CoC potential, he'd easily become one of the Strongest Yonko and was the natural next leader of the Whitebeard Pirates.
 
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I wonder too.

Maybe it is because Coby already had the idea of what ACoC is. Like when Luffy was fighting Kaido, Luffy just figured out that Kaido was infusing CoC before learning it.
Unless Garp himself trained coby in Acoc, that's not possible. Seems like coby himself didn't know he had coc before this. So that's wouldn't have happened either. And coby is hyped for his coo, not coa. So he couldn't have even gotten some idea from having Acoa cause he isn't shown to have it. If he did, he would have broken the ball and chains himself.
 
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