Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1088 Spoilers Discussion

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Tbh huge ass haki trails that span kilometers only happen in direct clash or direct impact. People need to reread luffy vs kaido

 

[YonkoCommanderBepo]

Last time there was a first mate and a chief of staff on the same crew they were equal in strength so shiryu can still be >= than Lafitte even if lafittes chief of staff.

and Sanji has beaten people higher in hierarchy than Zoros opponent before. Remember Thriller Bark Sanji fought the commander of the General Zombies and Zoro fought a general zombie.

Iam not talking about strength, I am talking about authority. No BB commander has been stated to be the first mate and only Lafitte is a chef of staff. Lafitte is above Shilew in authority. And Oda will never have Sanji fight someone above Zoro's opponent in authority in the final battle against their rival pirate crew

And using Mohji and Cabaji is a bad example because one of them was a first mate, and the other was defeated by Luffy, and it was in EB when it was just Luffy, Zoro, and Nami.

And in TB, Moria's commanders followed a theme that pit them against the weak trio members:

Perona->Ussop
Absalom->Nami
Hogback->Chopper

Zoro didn't fight a commander because Oda wanted to give him a solo fight for himself without any drama to replace Shusui and to introduce Wano lore. Saying Sanji fought someone above him that onetime which means he can fight Lafitte is like saying Chopper will fight someone above Shillew in the BB pirates. Neither will happen. Sanji will likely fight Pizaro

 

[The White Crane]

Exactly. Folks here claiming the future PK crew will only have 2 conquerors when Xebec had 4 including himself.

Luffy's crew isn't that special, dude.

 

[SakazOuki]

Also like most people i obviously think Roger was comparable to Newgate and Garp to Sengoku…at the same time I lowkey don’t get how…

From what it looks like whitebeard and sengoku pretty much have everything Roger and Garp do on top of having extremely strong devil fruit

Garp has extraordinary physicals, he is the fastest and strongest a character can be
Roger is the most skilled with haki for sure

 

[MarineHQ]

Oh, you mean that. I am talking about the huge trials of CoC. These impact lines we get from CoA users as well:

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We get these small lines from Adv CoC users as well. My point is that the Haki trails spreading further away from the body are more visual proof to Adv CoC usage than the thickness of the trails as Oda has proven to be very inconsistent with that.

In that panel Koby's trails are spreading at the point it started crushing Pizarro's hand imo.

 

[comrade]

CoC has been foreshadowed heavily for Usopp

What

 

[Heart pirate]

So how exactly Law not at least Greenbitch/Fuji lvl

Kuzan even was blizted, for all idiots overblowning Law failing to keep up with TB lvl speed

 

[MonsterKaido]

So koby has adv coc but not aokiji

 

[Indigo]

Now i'm more interested to see what the DLC characters for Pirate Warriors 4 are gonna be

Queen, King and Yamato?

Onigashima Sanji, Zoro and Luffy? with all the new Powerups?

Awakened Kid, Law?

End of Wano Kaido and Big Mom?



Take my money!

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Tbh huge ass haki trails that span kilometers only happen in direct clash or direct impact. People need to reread luffy vs kaido

We legit saw them from Garp with non-touching attacks. And this one is a direct attack, to begin with.

 

[Sentinel]

He was throwing out giant AdCoC punches, he had nothing else lol.

This was the extent of Garp’s disappointing power. Overall he’s a low top tier like Whitebeard

I personally think that Garp was impressive but just like his fellow legendary "comrades", Garp lacks massive stamina and his punching power hasn't been the same. Plus, fighting against several BB commanders + Kuzan, Garp performed quite well.

Rayleigh would definitely perform similarly. Hell, Rayleigh couldn't even afford to turn his back on Kizaru a single time to help the strawhats because he was so heavily occupied by Kizaru, any wrong or neglecting move would allow Kizaru to critically hit him.
Now, we've finally seen why Rayleigh couldn't allow to rescue the strawhats: Garp actually turned his back on Kuzan several times and this was the result why he lost so overwhelmingly. It didn't turn well. Rayleigh would have met the same fate as Garp.

 

[sanzolu]

Yea but what I’m saying is if ur just gonna look at this feat and say Coby used adv coa to destroy the hand but garp used adv coc to destroy the island the power level difference is atrocious… luffy and zoro are genuine monsters in the making hell Coby might even have more potential than them if he did this with adv coa

He does got more potential that is the point . He has the biggest glow up in the series . Man moved from being a bum to almost va level

 

[Dragon777]

So then u agree that whatever haki coby used is not completely clear? Because similar thing happened last chapter where the effect looked definitely like adcoc but still wasn't clear. Here also its purposefully vague

I think the "narrative" makes it clear (same names as Garp's attack, same pose as him, a clear power-up that permitted Koby to do something that a second before he thought was impossible, etc...), but the visual representation is not clear.

If Oda had drawn the trails, no one would have had any doubt. But in the same instance even Garp doesn't have them, so.

 

[Tejas]

What the fuck is a battle frenzy? You mean he's excited?

You can little see the shit coming out of KEKdo's mouth

Aokiji is scared like a little girl

 

[Gol D. Roger]

We get these small lines from Adv CoC users as well. My point is that the Haki trails spreading further away from the body are more visual proof to Adv CoC usage than the thickness of the trails as Oda has proven to be very inconsistent with that.

In that panel Koby's trails are spreading at the point it started crushing Pizarro's hand imo.

No, we never got trails this small from a COC user's attack—especially, not after the CoC coating's reveal.

 

[Thabeast]

So koby has adv coc but not aokiji

To be expected tbh.
The admirals have crazy Devil Fruits, while Koby will probably be a haki man like Garp.

 

[Joyboy joyboy no mi]

Trash chapter. Totally mid.

 

[Sentinel]

Luffy's crew isn't that special, dude.

Bro, we reading the same manga? It's +1080 chapters and you think Luffy's crew ain't that special?
Shall I remind you that their journey started 2.5 years ago? It's pretty special if you ask me lol.

 

[JoNdule]

To be honest, the Blackbeard pirates ended up looking better than I thought.

- Shiryu managed to reduce Garp's health power in one attack and didn't seem that damaged by Garp at the end
- Pizarro could take multiple named attacks from Garp

And with Kuzan's help, they incapacitated Garp with his fleet barely escaping

That's a better showing than most commanders thus far

How so?

Any YC would weaken Garp if they land a free shot
Any YC tanks Garp attack if they have golems or some tanky modes like zoans

They didn't look better than even Ulti

 

[Tejas]

Also like most people i obviously think Roger was comparable to Newgate and Garp to Sengoku…at the same time I lowkey don’t get how…

From what it looks like whitebeard and sengoku pretty much have everything Roger and Garp do on top of having extremely strong devil fruit

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