Chapter Discussion Viz debunks another agenda

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The Rogue Prince
#63
Fs --> Advanced CoO to seeing the future and sensing intents
Basic CoO has many levels: Coby is Advanced to hearing voices , aura and thoughts like Asia etc...
I dont think any "advanced Haki" abilities have ever been referred to as "advanced" in the manga, it's just a fandom thing.
 
#65
It's not that I care to pretend Shiryu really sent Garp to the point of no return or something... but I would say not to hinge on translation, it's not a direct process meant to be 100% accurate beyond negotiation. We didn't even know if the mf was Shiryu or Shiliew for years.

And quite obviously, the sword wound was important to the context.
 
#66
Kinda disappointed with Garp's Endurance ngl.
I guess WB set the bar too high in that regard.
Imo the difference is that Whitebeard died. As a legend his last moments had to be grandiose even if he was sick.
I don’t think anybody truly believe Garp is dead, old man is coming back and getting more moments during the endgame.
 
#70
SICKbeard was a different kind of beast. Hell, he was terminally ill, stabbed by Squardo, got a heart attack in the middle of fighting Akainu, got magmafisted by Akainu, then got half of his head removed, took dozens of sword cuts, bullets, cannon balls and a full attack of the entire BB pirates to kill him.

Sickbeard had

1.) No mystical zoan endurance
2.) No high durability

Sickbeard still has the best endurance feats in this verse, then comes Kaido.
 
#72
Hmm not sure I mean he really didn't make him look too hot in Hachinosu already
He looked better than the other legends outside endurance for WB.
Ray couldn't get Kizaru off of his ass for one single second, and only moment Sickbeard touched an admiral was from behind.
Meanwhile Garp blitzed Kuzan twice, whether Kuzan was faltering or no, it still makes him stand out from the other two .
 
#75
Then why the fuck did Kuma have that massive bubble of damage from him??
You can not be serious rn.
You have no idea if that's massive or not

it's a fictional power.
Maybe that's small ass bubble compared to what it would be with huge pain
Maybe size barely has anything to do with amount of pain
maybe that's just 1% of pain and 99% of exhaustion

What's factual is that Luffy barely took any damage whole arc:

^
This is what Zoro tanked and almost died from


I would also say nothing happened, because that would be embarrassing to admit
 
#77
You have no idea if that's massive or not

it's a fictional power.
Maybe that's small ass bubble compared to what it would be with huge pain
Maybe size barely has anything to do with amount of pain
maybe that's just 1% of pain and 99% of exhaustion

What's factual is that Luffy barely took any damage whole arc:

^
This is what Zoro tanked and almost died from


I would also say nothing happened, because that would be embarrassing to admit
Do you actually believe this or are you trolling because I refuse to believe that someone actually thinks this
 
#78
Kuzan did the most damage

Shiryu did weaken Garp a bit but he didn't do the most damage

It's like saying Zoro/Yamato/SNs did more damage than Luffy cause they weakened him a bit
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Zoro dealt 40% damage to Kaido. 40% magma+yamato+scabbard+lo+killer (mfa inflicted 0%). And 20% of the Nickname. So Shiryu inflicted 80% damage. The most serious wound = wide. Shirya was saved by Ao.
 
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