Controversial General Political Discussion

[Phoenix D. King]

It doesnt. Tell me any socialist country now that isnt ruled by globalists?

every country is buddy

 

[Roo]

Allowing the bare minimum according to one's needs is leftist. The state/government dictates what the private institution can or can't do by mandating things. The institution can't go against the mandates without punishment(unless you bribe). It's essentially saying that captialism has gotten crazy and needs to be dialed back a bit. Bernie Sanders for example isn't anti captialist and just believes Capitalism has gone off the rails and needs to be regulated more.

Socialism is more of abolishing privatization of the means of production to a collective one. Watering things down to “this is leftist”is boring, because capitalism is not inherently against some leftist ideas. Just like authoritarianism can be both left and right wing. I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s “giving capitalism a slice of socialism” because for example European countries do keep private healthcare despite having a universal healthcare. They do keep a private education industry despite having a public one. It was truly socialist those markets would be abolished in favor of public institutions.

regulations being anti capitalist is a libertarian wet dream. One could argue monopolies are inherently anti capitalist as they corner the entire market, regulations against it are probably pro capitalist.

 

[Zolo]

every country is buddy

Thats the point. Only dictatorship can save but that would mean war

 

[Ravagerblade]

What the US has right now is being ran by select few powerful people. It's not True Capitalism anymore... Big Monopolies Organizations like Blackrock, Vanguard to name a couple... It's all just corrupted.

 

[Uncle Van]

Socialism is more of abolishing privatization of the means of production to a collective one. Watering things down to “this is leftist”is boring, because capitalism is not inherently against some leftist ideas. Just like authoritarianism can be both left and right wing. I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s “giving capitalism a slice of socialism” because for example European countries do keep private healthcare despite having a universal healthcare. They do keep a private education industry despite having a public one. It was truly socialist those markets would be abolished in favor of public institutions.

regulations being anti capitalist is a libertarian wet dream. One could argue monopolies are inherently anti capitalist as they corner the entire market, regulations against it are probably pro capitalist.

That's why earlier I compared communism to the current state of American captialism. Power and control is in the hands of a select few and you can't own shit.

 

[Roo]

That's why earlier I compared communism to the current state of American captialism. Power and control is in the hands of a select few and you can't own shit.

eh disagree but that’s another can of worms lmao. I’m generally very skeptic of populism

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

???

“Socialist breaks” is just conservative propaganda.



Communist is only ever slightly different that socialism is my point, that hammering a difference is kinda moot when they’ve been used interchangeably for decades. Also I’m pretty sure a dictatorship is possible in socialism.

Circle back to my second paragraph of the post you quoted. Those things are not really socialistic as long as there are private institutions, which most if not all European countries allow.

why do you hate the community so much?? What have other people done to you ? ?

boogeyman out of anything not captialism is conservative propaganda lol. These systems gave worked before, it's just that American Corps doesn't wanna risk losing any power and focus on nations where communism and socialism was under dictatorship. Any system is trash under dictatorships

W

 

[Roo]

why do you hate the community so much?? What have other people done to you ? ?

W

I don’t hate communism. I just find it funny how glorified it is in the internet so it’s an easy thing to meme on.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I don’t hate communism. I just find it funny how glorified it is in the internet so it’s an easy thing to meme on.

Nah you sound like somebody who hates people and doesn't want to see others happy

 

[Roo]

Nah you sound like somebody who hates people and doesn't want to see others happy

Yes, I want everybody to suffer, specially women. The only person that matters is me, and in my ideal world all of you will be working for me as slaves as I spent the rest of my days hoarding every single thing in this world despite having no need for it

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yes, I want everybody to suffer, specially women. The only person that matters is me, and in my ideal world all of you will be working for me as slaves as I spent the rest of my days hoarding every single thing in this world despite having no need for it

You think I think this is you trolling but I know it's no trolling because it would be too obvious of a trolling attempt.

Nice try!

 

[Peroroncino]

penis

 

[NAMELESS]

We also have Hitler calling himself a socialist and North Korea calling themselves a democracy.

Really sounds like the Red Scare of the 1950s and 60s.

Dont believe what they say,but rather what they do.Communism is alive and well,but it has changed its propaganda and strategy.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

contrary to popular belief, “Muslims” aren’t India’s biggest problem(or a problem at all, for that matter)

 

[NAMELESS]

Hitler himself said his party had nothing to do with socialism and only said that to appeal to the people. North Korea is a dictatorship that can out you to death over a haircut but they call themselves a Democratic republic.

How does Lenin saying that the goal of socialism is communism means that MLK was a communist or wanted it?

Meanwhile his regime centralized power and heavily regulated the economy like in the USSR.Its what they do,not what they say.
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contrary to popular belief, “Muslims” aren’t India’s biggest problem(or a problem at all, for that matter)

From now on,I will remember to be thankfull to god for living in a multiethinical country that doesn't have such bullshit going on.
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I don’t hate communism. I just find it funny how glorified it is in the internet so it’s an easy thing to meme on.

I do.All those genocides rubbed me the wrong way.
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Socialism is more of abolishing privatization of the means of production to a collective one. Watering things down to “this is leftist”is boring, because capitalism is not inherently against some leftist ideas. Just like authoritarianism can be both left and right wing. I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s “giving capitalism a slice of socialism” because for example European countries do keep private healthcare despite having a universal healthcare. They do keep a private education industry despite having a public one. It was truly socialist those markets would be abolished in favor of public institutions.

regulations being anti capitalist is a libertarian wet dream. One could argue monopolies are inherently anti capitalist as they corner the entire market, regulations against it are probably pro capitalist.

It was back in the soviet union days,nowadays it has mutated into something else.

 

[Zenos7]

Liberalism as a religion of its own lol, they got their sacred texts, their beliefs and their authoritative figures. They have their rituals and forms of worship lol

wtf

 

[Haoshoku]

You're not wrong but you're lumping different things together that don't belong together or I may be misunderstanding you.

"the current dominant idealogy in the world with which 99% of all governments today partially or completely base their own laws " could you give an example for these?

Take a look at this map

The red represents states labeled “state religions” while the blue represents secular states. Those same countries colored in red do not even fully exercise religious law which isn’t already approved by the countries that hold the dominant ideology/philosophy that is Liberalism as their gospel.
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wtf

Let me assume, you gotta be from one of the sects within Liberalism as sectarianism runs quite rampant in it, which sect are you from? Are you from leftism? Or are you from nihilism? You gotta clarify for us but your reaction definitely confirms you adhere to the Liberal tenets lmao.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Take a look at this map

The red represents states labeled “state religions” while the blue represents secular states. Those same countries colored in red do not even fully exercise religious law which isn’t already approved by the countries that hold the dominant ideology/philosophy that is Liberalism as their gospel.

You didn't answer a single question nor did you clarify any of your statements, thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my life reading your """response""" and typing this response to you.

 

[Zenos7]

Take a look at this map

The red represents states labeled “state religions” while the blue represents secular states. Those same countries colored in red do not even fully exercise religious law which isn’t already approved by the countries that hold the dominant ideology/philosophy that is Liberalism as their gospel.
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Let me assume, you gotta be from one of the sects within Liberalism as sectarianism runs quite rampant in it, which sect are you from? Are you from leftism? Or are you from nihilism? You gotta clarify for us but your reaction definitely confirms you adhere to the Liberal tenets lmao.

Maybe you do some clarification first.

Id like to know about the sacred texts, beliefs, rituals and so on.

And lul at celebrities

Right wingers will def say im a leftist, whereas a lot of leftists call me far right or nazi. I dont really care about these categories though

 

[Seatonnes]

One Piece is heavily left leaning, stop reading it if you are right wing

nothing more to say in this thread