Questions & Mysteries "The Egghead Incident" The Event that will shake the World

#22
Don't think Kizaru is gonna be defeated, the Marines can't afford to lose him at this point
Marines defeat does progress the story, Kizaru's defeat specifically doesn't
It makes the marines desperate.
First they lose Garp then Kizaru and it’s likely Sengoku and Tsuru will be defeated as well trying to avenge garp.

This May finally force Sakazuki to do something besides desk work.
 
#23
Though I'm thinking about whether it wouldn't be better if Kizaru lost to Luffy here.
The first idea was obviously that all Admirals fall at the same time but Oda sucks at drawing the nr.2/3 fights and only does justice to the main boss fight
I find it hard to imagine dedicated 1v1s in a siege scenario, would not work well in the SHs favor

I don‘t think Kizaru will die ,so he still will be there .
Why you think defeating Kizaru won‘t progress the story ,if in a way it could contribute to the split between WG and Marines in the future?
Dont see how it would lead to such result
Oda can establish necessary powerlevels without involving the characters in an all out battle that will leave them dry for the upcoming arcs, thats his specialty. Kizaru being a dedicated fight in the last arc makes more sense especially since Fujitora is a benign Admiral.
 
#25
I find it hard to imagine dedicated 1v1s in a siege scenario, would not work well in the SHs favor


Dont see how it would lead to such result
Oda can establish necessary powerlevels without involving the characters in an all out battle that will leave them dry for the upcoming arcs, thats his specialty. Kizaru being a dedicated fight in the last arc makes more sense especially since Fujitora is a benign Admiral.
That's what they don't take into account, if kizaru lose here there is no come back so basically only Akainu and ryokugyu are left
 
#26
Fellow WG users ,
the time has come to make my first theory thread here ,and use my 2 braincells ,and try to piece together what might happen during "The Egghead Incident" the event that will shake the world to it‘s core.




First a quick overview of some things i think might happen ,which i will explain step by step ,and why i came to this conclusion.


  1. Dr.Vegapunk will die .
  2. Kizaru will be defeated,with his entire fleet. (Admiral fans don‘t hate me for this)
  3. Saint Jay Garcia Saturn will ether die ,or will be majorly injured during this battle.
  4. Egghead Island will be completely destroyed .


Vegapunks Death

Since the beginning of the Egghead arc there is a major deathflag over Vegapunks head .
Vegapunk himself believed he will die soon,while talking to Dragon .

During his speech with the Strawhats he revealed he studied the Poneglyphs, "Void Century" and the Ancient Technologies .


Since we know now York spilled the beans to the Gorosei about Vegapunks research ,

they are now coming to kill him.

His ties to Ohara ,mainly Prof Clover in the past ,makes me even more believe he won‘t get out there alive.

Prof Clover died after almost revealing the Name of the Ancient Kingdom to the Gorosei.





Vegapunk took the research of Ohara and brought it even further as it seems .
Which makes Vegapunk even more dangerous in the eyes of the WG, and an too big of a thread to be kept alive.
Where i think Saturn will be the one to kill Dr Vegapunk ,after these 2 talked with each other ,but this time we readers will get more (not all of course ) of their conservation.
Some juicy Lorebombs ,as we know them.
In the end ,Saturn will congratulate/praise Vegapunk on his research and will tell him he is right about what he found out.
Vegapunk will be shot in the head by Saturn ,while Saturn comments "Vegapunk learned too much ".
Like the Gorosei commented about Ohara.
Which will be an Parallel to Prof Clover on Ohara.




Saint Jay Garcia Saturn

Currently arriving on Egghead as of chapter 1088 ,one of the Gorosei Saint Jay Garcia Saturn.
Why is Saturn here?
What is different now?
Why do the Gorosei think there is the need for one of them to leave the Holy Land ?
The Gorosei didn‘t come to Ohara ,but now one of them is currently on Egghead.

The difference is Vegapunk himself,which is currently in control of the Seraphims ,Egghead as a whole and the "Mother Flame" ,yes the Weapon which was used to destroy Lulusia Kingdom.



Now you might think ,what is Darkest smoking ?

We saw Imu himself use it ,why should Vegapunk now have the control over it.

This panel right here where we saw Lucci and the others from CP0 ,talking about killing Dr Vegapunk and them wondering if it might be connected to the Lulusia incident .



If the WG had the "Mother Flame" right now in there control ,why couldn’t they nuke Egghead with the SH‘s on there together ?
They simply can‘t right now,because Vegapunk did something to it after witnessing what happened to Lulucia .
As we saw from the M.A.D.S coverstory Vegapunk has a strong sense for piece instead of war .


So,why do i think now Saturn will die.
Maybe the simplest answer to this might be the correct one .
One of the Gorosei one of the highest authority’s dying in battle with an Yonko ,is something the will shock the world on it‘s own like nothing else .
One more thing ,as we saw Cobra stated that Nefetari D Lily left the holy land ,but didn‘t return to Alabasta ,maybe Saturn left the Holy Land,and won‘t return there ether .
Which leads us to Kizaru.


"The defeat of Admiral Kizaru "

Since there are some similarities in Egghead to Sabaody Archipelago ,like the characters from at that time.
Kizaru seems to be the roadblock of the SH’s again ,which the newly declared Yonkocrew has to face to proceed their journey.
We all know what happened last time ,but this time it will be different.
It wouldn‘t make much sense for Luffy‘s crew to lose again right after becoming a Yonko crew ,but that‘s not really the point where i want to go with this.

Saturn dying or getting injured will cause major distrust among the WG and the Marines ,because the Marines failed to protect one of their leaders.
This might be one of the reason‘s why the Marines will turn against the WG in the end.

Something i want to add to that as well,there is another faction who will be scared from these events unfolding as well.

The Celestial Dragons ,thanks to the Revolutionary Army are experiencing hunger and lack of resources ,Kingdoms cut their heavily tribute payments of to them,and now one of there leaders Saturn dying in battle.
It might finally "Dawn" on them ,they aren‘t really in control anymore .


Doflamingos epic speech might now come in full circle



Destruction Of Egghead Island

The probably shortest ,segment of this theory .

How and why will Egghead be destroyed ?

The cause of the destruction of Egghead probably will be the "Mother Flame" ,as i said Vegapunk probably right now is in control of it .

This might be his last resort ,if something happens to him ,he will destroy the whole Island and the weapon as well.
If the WG gains control over Egghead they will be able to command the Pacifistas ,Seraphims ,"Mother Flame"and get access to a huge weapon collection and all of Vegapunks researches.
Which Vegapunk want‘s to prevent from happening.
These things in the wrong hands would only be fuel for wars and cruelty .

Some final thoughts about the end ,and potential use for Punk Records in the end.

Probably some lore about the Void century and the truth about the WG will be leaked to the World of OP ,which was Vegapunks intend from the point he knew he would bite the dust .
That‘s where Punk Records comes into play ,probably some of the conversation between Saturn and Vegapunk might be podcasted throughout the world .

Kuma

Currently on the Red Port,we learned some infos about him and Vegapunk through a short flashback about the "Weight of Memories" ,maybe Vegapunk is able now to preserve his memories and knowledge for the future after his death.
Just a short thought.

This could be the Narrator/or how Morgans would describe the event after it‘s conclusion .

On this fateful day, 1 of the 5 Elders Saint Jay Garcia Saturn died during the battle of Egghead .
The World lost there greatest Genius Dr Vegapunk ,and the Marines suffered an great loss with the defeat of Admiral Kizaru .
The place of this Incident, Egghead got destroyed in such manner some could say it vanished ….

I hope some of you like it ,and share your thoughts and comments or critics about it.

Some taggs of Users who might be interested in it.



Sanji needs to be the one to injure Saturn because he said to Kuma he would be the most feared by the marines.We need Kuma's flashback and his return to sanity too(if still alive).
 
#28
I see a nice, detailed theory - I like it
Simple as
Thank you appreciate it :pepemwai:
You are literally saying kizaru is going to loss so basically becoming irrelevant, you have to be consistent in your thinking, if kizaru lose here no one else will fight him afterward so basically only Akainu and ryokugyu are left
I wouldn‘t say he becomes irrelevant ,because former enemies of the SH‘s are coming back in the story frequently like Crocodile as example.
You forgot about Fuji :watchout:
 
#34
Thank you appreciate it :pepemwai:

I wouldn‘t say he becomes irrelevant ,because former enemies of the SH‘s are coming back in the story frequently like Crocodile as example.
You forgot about Fuji :watchout:
If you don't see the difference between crocodile coming back as a threat 800 chapters after his first defeat and kizaru, that's not simply not my fault
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Fujitoras a proud marine. He’ll fight against those who are attacking marines.
He didn't fight sabo despite him attacking marines
 
#36
Again, I don't think you would have to worry about Kizaru not bring in the final battles of the series. The loss to Luffy would be big news, but he's still one of the most powerful people in the series.
Oda has no reason to give a washed up admiral to someone and give one fresh admiral and fleet admiral to someone else that's just common sense
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Why are people so deluded whenever it's about marines, those scenarios simply don't work
 
#37
If you don't see the difference between crocodile coming back as a threat 800 chapters after his first defeat and kizaru, that's not simply not my fault
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He didn't fight sabo despite him attacking marines
He literally fought Sabo because he was fighting marines. He then decided there was better things to do with his time…
 
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