Controversial General Political Discussion

[AL sama]

Equality is way more important than equity, but equity is important too. There's a reason why there are special accommodations for people with disabilities.

van tell me do we ask for refunds from the government if our house collapse in an earthquake?? no right??

I feel the same way when disabled peopled ask for equity from the government

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

nope,better tech=cheaper goods=cheaper life cost.What we need is to figure out an answer to the energy-food-water problem.If we figure that out we are golden.

It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.

 

[Logiko]

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Ah yes indeed

That's not how it works. You can't run away from problems, that why we're having problems in the first place, too damn soft...
If you can't handle opposition, maybe this place isn't for you instead of hoping to snag like-minded people and have this place be an echo chamber.

Dude.. I asked you three times if you wanna have a conversation. I'm not the one running away here.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Ah yes indeed

Dude.. I asked you three times if you wanna have a conversation. I'm not the one running away here.

I don't have to play by your rules pal.

 

[NAMELESS]

It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.

Even Kings in medieval times lived hard lives.Even people in third world countries live pretty comfortable lives compared to ancient/medieval people.Industrialization reduces suffering and poverty.The physical/mental "suffering" you speak off have more to do with modern diet,lack of exercises,excessive electronic use and other modern day traps.Once people become aware of the ill effects of modern life style,they will merely need to adjust their behavior. We are the most blessed generation ever.

 

[Logiko]

I don't have to play by your rules pal.

It's not "my rule" it's a proposal of conversation. If you don't want it, there is no conversation. Simple. I don't want to debate like before it leads to nothing.

So either you want to discuss with me or you ignore me.

 

[Ravagerblade]

It's not "my rule" it's a proposal of conversation. If you don't want it, there is no conversation. Simple. I don't want to debate like before it leads to nothing.

So either you want to discuss with me or you ignore me.

Call it whatever. Means nothing...
You can either read what I say or don't and prove me correct. Otherwise you aren't as open to discussion as much as you say, you only want certain answers to your questions being asked.

 

[Logiko]

Call it whatever. Means nothing...
You can either read what I say or don't and prove me correct. Otherwise you aren't as open to discussion as much as you say, you only want certain answers to your questions being asked.

Like I said, I'm open now to a certain type of discussion an epistemologic one. Anything else will lead to nothing. So either you accept that or you ignore me.

Now, tell me when you want to speak like a grown up and I will gladly ask you question or you will ask me question. In the meantime I will focus on the ones that actually want to play the game.

Ciao

 

[Ravagerblade]

Like I said, I'm open now to a certain type of discussion an epistemologic one. Anything else will lead to nothing. So either you accept that or you ignore me.

Now, tell me when you want to speak like a grown up and I will gladly ask you question or you will ask me question. In the meantime I will focus on the ones that actually want to play the game.

Ciao

Lol That's just childish in its own way bud...
This is why Wokism needs to just die out, they shut out any other conversation other than the one they want. Also, the irony.

Good luck playing those stupid games.

 

[Logiko]

Lol That's just childish in its own way bud...
This is why Wokism needs to just die out, they shut out any other conversation other than the one they want. Also, the irony.

Good luck playing those stupid games.

Sure. Bonne nuit :)

 

[Uncle Van]

van tell me do we ask for refunds from the government if our house collapse in an earthquake?? no right??

I feel the same way when disabled peopled ask for equity from the government

I was not thinking about money when I mentioned equity. I was more about, as an example,"everyone should have access to the store, but there should be ramps and scooters available for those with physical impairments . Normal people shouldn't use them. "

 

[Krusher1357]

Even Kings in medieval times lived hard lives.Even people in third world countries live pretty comfortable lives compared to ancient/medieval people.Industrialization reduces suffering and poverty.The physical/mental "suffering" you speak off have more to do with modern diet,lack of exercises,excessive electronic use and other modern day traps.Once people become aware of the ill effects of modern life style,they will merely need to adjust their behavior. We are the most blessed generation ever.

We are not blessed in any sense, we have our own issues that are as big to us as the plague was to people in mediaeval times. That's the point of evolving, everything evolves. As people evolve so do the problems and the solutions. None of this shit is remotely linear, every expression has countless implications.

What are we blessed by?
Higher understanding of medicine and the human body has lead to profiteering, biological warfare. Inhumane experimentation and we've given biology the chance to evolve against us at exponential rates by modifying it . Yeah there's benefits but there's also atrocities

Technology has many faults, I mean bruh kids are killing themselves because of bullying BC it's now Inescapable, Chinese kids live in poverty and die making your blessed phone.

There's levels mate and you're BARELY skimming the surface of this primordial clusterfuck

 

[AL sama]

I was not thinking about money when I mentioned equity. I was more about, as an example,"everyone should have access to the store, but there should be ramps and scooters available for those with physical impairments . Normal people shouldn't use them. "

I get that but I still find them more like pity rights rather than human rights tbh

although most people are fine with them regardless of the needs

 

[NikaInParis]

There is nothing to assume here. You have cleared the way toward your true self. No wonder I can't discuss with you without you being toxic.

A person cannot be toxic, only their statements can be.
You're contradicting yourself

 

[Cruxroux]

What happened when I was asleep

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

A person cannot be toxic, only their statements can be.
You're contradicting yourself

Not if I drink a bottle of bleach and pour it all over my self

 

[Logiko]

A person cannot be toxic, only their statements can be.
You're contradicting yourself

Good point.

 

[Cruxroux]

Not if I drink a bottle of bleach and pour it all over my self

 

[NikaInParis]

Not if I drink a bottle of bleach and pour it all over my self

You got me

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'm not actually suicidal or anything (if I ever tried to kill my self I'd shoot my self not drink bleach)