I said foreign policy. Nice strawman there.
Oh, so you mean killing an Iranian general without the approval of congress?

Bush had support of the U.S for the shitty wars he got us in, had trump had his way we would be in a war with Iran
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Never forget Trump literally hired the biggest war hawk in politics, John Bolton.
 
Oh, so you mean killing an Iranian general without the approval of congress?

Bush had support of the U.S for the shitty wars he got us in, had trump had his way we would be in a war with Iran
I was expecting this. But how is droning Soleimani worse than messing up the Middle-East for decades ?

Trump is megalomaniac, but his foreign policies are still better than the ones of the Bush administration. Which really puts into perspective the complexity of things.

My point is that officially, the far-right came to power in 2016 with Trump's election. But recent history of the US has seen worse foreign policies. And even domestic policies aren't always bright to use an euphemism. Ultimately, Trump's main default as a politician is his cunt mouth that he can't shut. If he did the same things with a different rhetoric, he could have been reelected easy.
 
I was expecting this. But how is droning Soleimani worse than messing up the Middle-East for decades ?

Trump is megalomaniac, but his foreign policies are still better than the ones of the Bush administration. Which really puts into perspective the complexity of things.

My point is that officially, the far-right came to power in 2016 with Trump's election. But recent history of the US has seen worse foreign policies. And even domestic policies aren't always bright to use a euphemism. Ultimately, Trump's main default as a politician is his cunt mouth that he can't shut. If he did the same things with a different rhetoric, he could have been reelected easy.
Except they’re not bro, Trump didn’t have the power to get what he wanted unlike Bush who had congress + the will of the people. Trump again hired John Bolton, that enough tells you he’s at least as big as a war hawk as Bush
 
I was expecting this. But how is droning Soleimani worse than messing up the Middle-East for decades ?

Trump is megalomaniac, but his foreign policies are still better than the ones of the Bush administration. Which really puts into perspective the complexity of things.

My point is that officially, the far-right came to power in 2016 with Trump's election. But recent history of the US has seen worse foreign policies. And even domestic policies aren't always bright to use an euphemism. Ultimately, Trump's main default as a politician is his cunt mouth that he can't shut. If he did the same things with a different rhetoric, he could have been reelected easy.
You nailed it!
 
Except they’re not bro, Trump didn’t have the power to get what he wanted unlike Bush who had congress + the will of the people. Trump again hired John Bolton, that enough tells you he’s at least as big as a war hawk as Bush
Typical uchronia you're doing here with IFs. Remember that congress was Republican during his term and he's the reason why the Supreme Court went reactionary -and still is at this day- even after he lost in 2020. I don't really understand where "he didn't have the power to" comes from to be honest. Care to elaborate ?

From inside the US, Trump is seen as the worst by many because of his domestic policies. All I'm saying is that despite his erratic and capricious foreign policies, it didn't result in any war.

"He had John Bolton in his government" isn't the same as "Dick Cheney and co. successfully convinced Bush to a war with Irak".
 
Typical uchronia you're doing here with IFs. Remember that congress was Republican during his term and he's the reason why the Supreme Court went reactionary -and still is at this day- even after he lost in 2020. I don't really understand where "he didn't have the power to" comes from to be honest. Care to elaborate ?

From inside the US, Trump is seen as the worst by many because of his domestic policies. All I'm saying is that despite his erratic and capricious foreign policies, it didn't result in any war.
Trump wasn’t even popular amongst neo conservatives. He famously got fucked over when he tried to get rid of the ACA. He didn’t have support of congress, it’s not a secret. The only major legislation Trump got passed was the tax cut, which is a pretty popular policy amongst neo cons and the tea party.

If you can’t understand why Trump didn’t have power then I’d suggest you look into how ineffective he was as a president. Dismissing Trumps hiring of John Bolton because he didn’t get the entire Bush cabinet is hilariously childish. The point still stands, hiring Bolton shows Trump’s war hawk mentality that thankfully never materialized
 
Fuck the cops

Wanted to draw attention to this because I don't think anybody really gave a shit about it when it happened. But I saw this on youtube and it really pissed me off.

The cop here murdered an unarmed mentally ill man and basically got off.
https://www.wmur.com/article/thornt...tified-attorney-generals-office-says/35853474

He said "he didn't have time to react" and that "he was fearing for his life". But its all bullshit. He pulled his gun out the moment the guy started yelling at him from inside his house. He could have ran back to his car and waited for back up. He could have pulled out a taser. The dude was literally limping at him.

There is literally no other job where you can be this incompetent and face this little accountability.
 
They’re not “pushing” anything. Hollywood and TikTok are a business. They push ideas that are already popular so they can make money.
And stakeholders of a business have influence and power on the decision making of said business, especially major stakeholders such as the Chinese government. They're funding movies in the United States that they wouldn't even show in their own country. Similarly, they push woke ideology all over Tik Tok, while completely censoring out this criteria on their own in country social media platform.
 
Trump wasn’t even popular amongst neo conservatives. He famously got fucked over when he tried to get rid of the ACA. He didn’t have support of congress, it’s not a secret. The only major legislation Trump got passed was the tax cut, which is a pretty popular policy amongst neo cons and the tea party.

If you can’t understand why Trump didn’t have power then I’d suggest you look into how ineffective he was as a president. Dismissing Trumps hiring of John Bolton because he didn’t get the entire Bush cabinet is hilariously childish. The point still stands, hiring Bolton shows Trump’s war hawk mentality that thankfully never materialized
I'm aware the GOP has people with diverging opinions and takes. Bolton is indeed a war-hawk. But no war happened. And Bolton resigned. I'm just looking at what happened, meanwhile you're arguing how they were psychologically.
 
I'm aware the GOP has people with diverging opinions and takes. Bolton is indeed a war-hawk. But no war happened. And Bolton resigned. I'm just looking at what happened, meanwhile you're arguing how they were psychologically.
Because I don’t think we should give credit to idiots who didn’t get what they wanted.
 
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Well. I think this is a good time to start:


@Starbound Beast D. Draig
@Adam 🍎
@Herrera95
@Ravagerblade
@NAMELESS
@Zenos7
@Mr. Reloaded
@Cruxroux

All of you think that "woke" is a problem.

Now I want to have a complete conversation with you to try to examine that belief and if possible, challenge it. This will be a very hard exercice for me so excuse me in advance if I forgot someone or something. You have the possibility of ignoring me of course, but for the sake of the health of this thread, I think we would all benefit from this conversation.

I will try to have a conversation, meaning that it goes both way, I will ask you some question but you are also allowed to try to change my perspective.

HERE is my first question: Do you prefer discussing in private or on this thread ?

Both have their advantage and inconvenience so choose as you wish.
Funny how the same person that want to say woke is not a problem was the one saying how everything it is woke to us now and that yourself is not woke as we think.
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Thanks, you just killed your argument.🤣🤣

You're more unknowledgeable than I thought.
The guy who did 0 argument saying that...
 
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