Current Events Anyone Who Believes The Egghead Vice Admirals Will Job Is A Hypocrite

#81
Again with the CD excuse.
Pretty much, a CD well established Yonko barging in with the full force of his crew
Luffy‘s status as Nika however is more important than his position in the balance of power as a simple yonko

As the Gorosei said in their intro, the three powers must be protected

Shanks never defeated Kaido what are you talking about?
Luffy, didn’t structure it well I guess lol
 
#82
You know who I’m talking about lmfao.

These people say “the Vice Admirals are complete jobbers, the Straw Hats will low diff them”

And then literally in the exact same breath they will say “Egghead is being set up to be a shocking victory for the Straw Hats!”

…So where exactly is the shocking part of this victory if everyone already expects the Straw Hats to win lmfao.
An Admiral and possibly a Gorosei member falling along with a huge Marine fleet.
 
#83
Pretty much, a CD well established Yonko barging in with the full force of his crew
Luffy‘s status as Nika however is more important than his position in the balance of power as a simple yonko

As the Gorosei said in their intro, the three powers must be protected


Luffy, didn’t structure it well I guess lol
Wouldnt Shanks be like Doffy ie he isnt a CD anymore?

Ah ok gotcha.
 
#84
Wouldnt Shanks be like Doffy ie he isnt a CD anymore?

Ah ok gotcha.
Even Doffy, one of the lowlife CDs without a family backing him up, had special privileges
Garling however has the leisure to publicly crucify CDs, ironically one of Doffy's relatives, and is the leader of Imu's knights. That's a whole different level of power and prestige. Add to that the fact that he is a yonko and everything clears up
Luffy is Nika, his death is a priority
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#87
Kaido went down to a group effort. Not Luffy alone and the fact that he was given a similar bounty to Mid reinforced the idea to GB that he wasnt up to snuff.

When GB meant crew he referred to Shanks and co as a crew, when he spoke about Kaido he spoke about him alone. Why didnt he say beast pirates huh?
Greenbull pulled up to the entire group dude.

Forget Kaidou he pulled up alone to a group that took down the entire beast pirates including Kaidou + Big Mom.

It makes no sense for him to be afraid of Kaidou, he's walking in letting his presence be felt against all of Wano and the entire alliance worth 2 Yonkous + 1 Yonkou crew. Injuries don't even begin to make up for such a massive advantage for the alliance, and he pulled up a whole week after the fighting too.

If Greenbull is afraid of Kaidou is what you got out of that you're only reading surface level.
 
#89
Greenbull pulled up to the entire group dude.

Forget Kaidou he pulled up alone to a group that took down the entire beast pirates including Kaidou + Big Mom.

It makes no sense for him to be afraid of Kaidou, he's walking in letting his presence be felt against all of Wano and the entire alliance. Injuries don't even begin to make up for such a massive advantage for the alliance, and he pulled up a whole week after the fighting too.

If Greenbull is afraid of Kaidou is what you got out of that you're only reading surface level.
What part of hes underestimating Luffy is hard to understand? Shanks on the other hand is an established Yonko with his crew so he backed off.

Im not reading anything surface level.
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Against someone who isn't an Admiral that they were forced to fight for a draft.
Admirals are top tiers.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#90
What part of hes underestimating Luffy is hard to understand? Shanks on the other hand is an established Yonko with his crew so he backed off.

Im not reading anything surface level.
He may have been underestimating Luffy, but the fact remains he knows for a fact that alliance was worth 2+ Yonkou atleast. Him being afraid of Kaidou alone is a massive contradiction when he's walking in on people who beat Kaidou and Big Mom and beast pirates.
 
#92
He may have been underestimating Luffy, but the fact remains he knows for a fact that alliance was worth 2+ Yonkou atleast. Him being afraid of Kaidou alone is a massive contradiction.
Not really it just shows that he respects Kaido more then Luffy. I never said he was afraid of Kaido just that he respected his strength.
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When you think of a top tier who do you think of (besides Admirals)?
Admirals, Emperors, Mihawk, Dragon.
 
#93
He may have been underestimating Luffy, but the fact remains he knows for a fact that alliance was worth 2+ Yonkou atleast. Him being afraid of Kaidou alone is a massive contradiction when he's walking in on people who beat Kaidou and Big Mom and beast pirates.
And narratively, we have
”As terrible as it was, Kaido’s rule is what kept me out”

And the fact that the Yonko system is something the WG wishes to protect
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#94
Not really it just shows that he respects Kaido more then Luffy. I never said he was afraid of Kaido just that he respected his strength.
Oh there's no doubt about that. The entire point of that scene was Greenbull shitting on their celebration (literally and figuratively) by letting the country hick scabbards who are clueless about the world know that getting rid of Kaidou only brings in another Kaidou (Greenbull) in this case. This is what forced Yamato to give up on her dream of leaving the island.

Kaidou being a deterrent is common sense, every Yonkou is a deterrent. WB didn't bother going to Wano despite having every reason to. Big Mom was a deterrent as well, no one touches their territory.
 
#95
Oh there's no doubt about that. The entire point of that scene was Greenbull shitting on their celebration (literally and figuratively) by letting the country hick scabbards who are clueless about the world know that getting rid of Kaidou only brings in another Kaidou (Greenbull) in this case. This is what forced Yamato to give up on her dream of leaving the island.

Kaidou being a deterrent is common sense, every Yonkou is a deterrent. WB didn't bother going to Wano despite having every reason to. Big Mom was a deterrent as well, no one touches their territory.
I know what GB meant, Kaido ( a predator) was keeping other predators that would prey on Wano away. With his death, nothing stop other predators like GB to show up and fuck shit up.

Its the rule of nature.
Read this friend, I already stated what you just said but anyone who pretends that this wasn’t positive portrayal towards Kaido is kinda of lying to themselves.
 
#96
Greenbull pulled up to the entire group dude.

Forget Kaidou he pulled up alone to a group that took down the entire beast pirates including Kaidou + Big Mom.

It makes no sense for him to be afraid of Kaidou, he's walking in letting his presence be felt against all of Wano and the entire alliance worth 2 Yonkous + 1 Yonkou crew. Injuries don't even begin to make up for such a massive advantage for the alliance, and he pulled up a whole week after the fighting too.

If Greenbull is afraid of Kaidou is what you got out of that you're only reading surface level.
You're coping
Greenbull himself admits that he wouldn't come if Kaido was still pesent
He didn't mention Kaido's crew (he already mocked Kaido's commanders being weak ..so nope)
Unlike with Shanks where he mentioned RHp too, GB hyped Kaido's presence.

He went to Wano thinking he would get to Luffy easily cause they're weakened
That's why he didn't even want to fight retainers, he asked them to give him/let him see luffy

Greenbull is retardedly wild, he was underestimating Luffy

Anything you say is just headcanon and copium,
Oda even want on making Nekomamushi say that "that guy was right, Kaido's presence kept powerful enemies away from this country" which confirms once again it was powerlevel thing

Greenbull admitted inferiority to Kaido and Shanks made him quit
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#97
Read this friend, I already stated what you just said but anyone who pretends that this wasn’t positive portrayal towards Kaido is kinda of lying to themselves.
It was definitely positive portrayal for Kaidou that's obvious, how can it not be?

But anyone pushing this GB was afraid of Kaidou is choosing to be disengenous, or simply can't read past surface level. Heck like i said it would never make sense to begin with even at a surface level if you just stop and think for 2 seconds who Greenbull was pulling up on fully announcing his presence (Kaidou + BM + Beast Pirates worth of fighters).
 
#98
And narratively, we have
”As terrible as it was, Kaido’s rule is what kept me out”

And the fact that the Yonko system is something the WG wishes to protect
I

He says both “presence” and “rule”, you are focusing entirely the rule part and disregarding the presence aspect. If he meant the crew in its entirety he would’ve said “Beast Pirates” just like he did when Shanks attacked him and he said “ Red hair pirates” instead of just Shanks.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#99
You're coping
Greenbull himself admits that he wouldn't come if Kaido was still pesent
He didn't mention Kaido's crew (he already mocked Kaido's commanders being weak ..so nope)
Unlike with Shanks where he mentioned RHp too, GB hyped Kaido's presence.

He went to Wano thinking he would get to Luffy easily cause they're weakened
That's why he didn't even want to fight retainers, he asked them to give him/let him see luffy

Greenbull is retardedly wild, he was underestimating Luffy

Anything you say is just headcanon and copium,
Oda even want on making Nekomamushi say that "that guy was right, Kaido's presence kept powerful enemies away from this country" which confirms once again it was powerlevel thing

Greenbull admitted inferiority to Kaido and Shanks made him quit
Who said it wasn't a powerlevel thing as well? Kaidou would have to be strong enough to be a deterrent.
 
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